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09-27-2005, 10:07 PM
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Re: Clock Error in Pats-Steelers Game
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Originally Posted by sir_drinkalot
You can look at it that way if you want but obviously i'm the ONLY Pats fan on this board. But everyone makes it sound as if the Steelers tied it up, and THEN the magical 52 seconds appeared. Not true. That would have been different.
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Extra time is extra time. You can't give extra outs in baseball.
Like I said....there's a big difference in 2:00 and 2:52 on a football time clock.
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09-27-2005, 10:12 PM
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Re: Clock Error in Pats-Steelers Game
From the NFL.com Game Center.
quote:New England Patriots at 01:14
1-10-NE38 (1:14) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass to K.Faulk pushed ob at PIT 45 for 17 yards (J.Farrior).
1-10-PIT45 (1:06) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass to P.Pass ran ob at PIT 31 for 14 yards. Penalty on PIT-D.Townsend, Illegal Contact, declined.
1-10-PIT31 (:57) C.Dillon up the middle to PIT 31 for no gain (C.Haggans, C.Hampton).
2-10-PIT31 (:50) T.Brady pass to D.Givens to PIT 25 for 6 yards (I.Taylor).
3-4-PIT25 (:05) A.Vinatieri 43 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-L.Paxton, Holder-J.Miller.
NE 23 PIT 20, Plays: 5 Yards: 37 Possession: 1:20.
The time between the givens 6 yard catch and the field goal was 45 seconds. The Dillon run for not gain was 7 seconds. That's 52 seconds right there.
In addition, the field goal was made on 3rd down, so if you delete the Dillon run and let Brady spike the ball after Given's reception, then the phantom 52 seconds makes no difference.
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09-27-2005, 10:21 PM
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Re: Clock Error in Pats-Steelers Game
Okay....now I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing...but 52 secs could mean a Pittsburgh drive and a last second FG to tie the game.
But like I said...for the sake of arguing.
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09-27-2005, 10:26 PM
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Re: Clock Error in Pats-Steelers Game
Wasn't the game in pittsburgh? Renegade Time Keeper! LMAO!
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09-27-2005, 10:26 PM
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Re: Clock Error in Pats-Steelers Game
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Kinda shitty for the Steelers seeing as they tied the game and then the extra time added on allowed for the Pats to win the game. 
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OK Korn, but it just burns me up when I read analysis like the quote above, y'know?
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09-27-2005, 11:12 PM
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Re: Clock Error in Pats-Steelers Game
I have to agree, Sir_D - you would be crying foul, if it had happened the other way.
Either way, since it was 14 minutes to go, the effect is not as bad as if it was 4 minutes.
And with the clock running with 52 seconds less, may have chnaged the way the Steeler's called plays and or how the Pat's used TO's.
We won't know. It was a bad thing.
Also, when you say "Phantom" interference, you are saying that from REPLAY and not the officials view. He saw what he saw. Replay showed a Different angle.
That is how they go.
I was rooting for Pitt - but oh well.
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09-27-2005, 11:12 PM
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Re: Clock Error in Pats-Steelers Game
PS - My Bronco's killed the Cheaps last night, and I was there!!!!
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09-27-2005, 11:49 PM
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Re: Clock Error in Pats-Steelers Game
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PS - My Bronco's killed the Cheaps last night, and I was there!!!!
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:happycow: That made me feel even better about my Dolphins killing your Broncos...
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09-27-2005, 11:51 PM
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Re: Clock Error in Pats-Steelers Game
Either way, I still think the Pats aren't going all the way this year.
I too was rooting for the Steelers.
I like seeing Tom Brady lose, what of it?
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09-28-2005, 12:13 AM
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Re: Clock Error in Pats-Steelers Game
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Either way, I still think the Pats aren't going all the way this year.
I too was rooting for the Steelers.
I like seeing Tom Brady lose, what of it?
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 I like the Steelers... not nearly as much as the Dolphins, but I still like em. Plus, any team playing the Patriots is automatically my 2nd favorite team. :happycow:
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09-28-2005, 08:19 AM
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Re: Clock Error in Pats-Steelers Game
It will be hard for the pats this year but you can't stay on top for too long in the NFL.
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09-28-2005, 10:24 AM
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Re: Clock Error in Pats-Steelers Game
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Originally Posted by sir_drinkalot
OK Korn, but it just burns me up when I read analysis like the quote above, y'know?
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Here we go again. You just don't seem to fuckin give up do you?
What exactly did I say in the original post that "burns you up" ?
I made a statement based on facts, there is no opinion in my statement.
If the game did not have 52 extra seconds, then they would not have kicked that field goal. I understand that the game would have played out differently and they might have won anyway, and the Steelers might not have tied it up and so on and so forth.
I said it was shitty for the Steelers cause they lost, not because they would have won.
Anyway Joe, how was the game? I'm very jealous that you were at the game and got to see your team play. Looks like your Broncos are gonna be the better team this year than the Raiders. 
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09-28-2005, 06:05 PM
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Re: Clock Error in Pats-Steelers Game
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Originally Posted by xopt1js
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Kinda shitty for the Steelers seeing as they tied the game and then the extra time added on allowed for the Pats to win the game. 
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Here you go Bud,
You tell ME what's wrong with your analysis.
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09-28-2005, 06:11 PM
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Re: Clock Error in Pats-Steelers Game
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Kinda shitty for the Steelers seeing as they tied the game and then the extra time added on allowed for the Pats to kick a field goal which they might have kicked anyway and won the game. 
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Fixed. Is that more acceptable?
Or wait...
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Originally Posted by xopt1js
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I know nothing about football, so i am gonna let the Pats fans tell me all about it.
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09-28-2005, 06:26 PM
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Re: Clock Error in Pats-Steelers Game
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Fixed. Is that more acceptable?
Or wait...

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OK, that's better.
No, seriously, your original post implies that only AFTER the Steelers tied the game was the time added. Seemingly just to make it easier for the Pats to roll down the field exploiting Cowhers weak-ass cover 2 defense. That's all.
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