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Old 08-01-2003, 09:19 PM   #1
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A friend of mine in the U.S. Justice Department told me about a week ago that Kobe had beat-up and raped two white women sometime in the past. The women were afraid to come forward and press charges. After whats happening
to this victim I can understand their fear. Today on Fox News there was some mention of it but I am sure the police are
withholding as much information as possible until the trial. If they can get these two women to come forward and tell of their assault by Kobe it will seal his fate. Under current rules of prosecution other victims are allowed to testify for the prosecution to show a pattern of behavior that would indicate that he is more likely than not to have committed this assault on the current victim. I'm afraid that Kobe's fans have been hoodwinked into thinking he is just Mr. Nice Guy!
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Old 08-01-2003, 11:05 PM   #2
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Old 08-02-2003, 06:39 PM   #3
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A friend of mine in NASA told me about a week ago the Kobe is really an alien from the Sirius star system and is here to impregnate human women in a vicious attempt to take over our planet.

Other women have been implanted with his alien seed but they are afraid to come forward for fear of being disected.

I'm afraid that Kobe's fans have been hoodwinked into thinking he is just another human!
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Old 08-02-2003, 06:42 PM   #4
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Old 08-02-2003, 06:47 PM   #5
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A friend of mine in NASA told me about a week ago the Kobe is really an alien from the Sirius star system and is here to impregnate human women in a vicious attempt to take over our planet.

Other women have been implanted with his alien seed but they are afraid to come forward for fear of being disected.

I'm afraid that Kobe's fans have been hoodwinked into thinking he is just another human!


Were on to you.
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Old 08-02-2003, 07:40 PM   #6
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A friend of mine in the U.S. Justice Department told me about a week ago that Kobe had beat-up and raped two white women sometime in the past. The women were afraid to come forward and press charges. After whats happening
to this victim I can understand their fear. Today on Fox News there was some mention of it but I am sure the police are
withholding as much information as possible until the trial. If they can get these two women to come forward and tell of their assault by Kobe it will seal his fate. Under current rules of prosecution other victims are allowed to testify for the prosecution to show a pattern of behavior that would indicate that he is more likely than not to have committed this assault on the current victim. I'm afraid that Kobe's fans have been hoodwinked into thinking he is just Mr. Nice Guy!

Who says that he raped them? The women who never came forward when they say they were violated? Kobe was never charged with raping them. Is that the way our justice system is supposed to work in view of what I have told you of the duplicitous and manipulative nature of BPD? Famous and powerful men such as Kobe attract all sorts of women looking for their 15 minutes of fame. They think they are helping a sister but all they do is make things much worse. So here we have a the case against Kobe: an emotionally disturbed person files a charge against him saying that he sexually violated her. She said at first that he became a maniac the moment she entered his hotel room. The prosecution says that they had consensual sex but at some point it became non consensual. The prosecution does not want to deal with her splitting behavior. Now we hear that women who never came forward before to say that Kobe violated them might testify that he did. This is going to prove that the sex with his accuser was not at all times consensual? This will prove it beyond a reasonable doubt? We are supposed to have a justice system that protects against innocent people being convicted for crimes they did not commit. But in alleged date rape allegations, where famous powerful men are involved, it appears that the defendant needs to prove at least by a preponderance of evidence that he is innocent. Kobe Bryant is innocent. No matter how many of these people suddenly come out of the woodwork, that is the truth. We are going to have to rename the Justice Department if your friend keeps doing that, don't you think? See what I had to say in my chapter about the Marv Albert case. My book:www.totaleclipseofthetruth.com
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Old 08-02-2003, 07:55 PM   #7
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Kobe Bryant is innocent. No matter how many of these people suddenly come out of the woodwork, that is the truth.



Do you have some sort of stake in Kobe Bryant being aquitted? Do you own part of the Lakers?

If you use your BPD knowledge to demonstrate pattern behavior, then why can't the prosecution use past incidents ( if they are legit ) to demonstrate pattern behavior?

I'll say it yet again -- not you or anyone else except Kobe and Kate know the whole truth until this trial sheds light on it. It's all speculation -- yes, even your opinion that Kobe is innocent is speculation. Period.
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Old 08-02-2003, 08:44 PM   #8
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Do you have some sort of stake in Kobe Bryant being aquitted? Do you own part of the Lakers?

If you use your BPD knowledge to demonstrate pattern behavior, then why can't the prosecution use past incidents ( if they are legit ) to demonstrate pattern behavior?

I'll say it yet again -- not you or anyone else except Kobe and Kate know the whole truth until this trial sheds light on it. It's all speculation -- yes, even your opinion that Kobe is innocent is speculation. Period.

Actually I root for the rather sad Pat Riley led Miami Heat. My book is about Bordrline Behaviors and how they are fooling our legal system. THEY ARE FOOLING OUR LEGAL SYSTEM!!! Everyone in our free society has a stake in Kobe's trial, and a reponsibility to speak out when there is an often fatal flaw in the system. Only one of those two people in that hotel room knows the truth, and it is not Kate. Her version of the truth is quite different than what happened but she is not aware of that. My concern is that our justice system is just as ignorant of the truth and is not in tune with the knowlege of borderline behaviors that it needs to arrive at the truth. We are both entitled to our own opinions, don't you think? The First Amendment is the best part of our Constitution.
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Old 08-02-2003, 09:38 PM   #9
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We are both entitled to our own opinions, don't you think? The First Amendment is the best part of our Constitution.



Here's the difference between our opinions:

Mine: I'm open to listen to the facts of the case and make a judgement at that point -- when all the facts are presented.

Yours: Kate is a liar, she had BPD, and no matter what, Kobe is innocent.


Tell me you don't see the difference. You aren't open to any other possibilities other than Kate has BPD.


If the DA had a taped confession of Kobe spilling all, you'd still be skeptical. " I dunno ... the police must've tortured him and forced him to lie about it. Kate has BPD and that's it. I know the truth. "
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Old 08-02-2003, 09:58 PM   #10
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Here's the difference between our opinions:

Mine: I'm open to listen to the facts of the case and make a judgement at that point -- when all the facts are presented.

Yours: Kate is a liar, she had BPD, and no matter what, Kobe is innocent.


Tell me you don't see the difference. You aren't open to any other possibilities other than Kate has BPD.


If the DA had a taped confession of Kobe spilling all, you'd still be skeptical. " I dunno ... the police must've tortured him and forced him to lie about it. Kate has BPD and that's it. I know the truth. "

Kate is NOT a liar here. She has a distorted and reintegrated view of reality of what happened. I am an advocate of my position. That is what lawyers do. I have watched our justice system get fooled by BPD too many times not to speak out. I never expect to change your view, but don't put words in my mouth. Show me where I ever said that Kate knows that she is not telling the truth. Her view of what happened is totally distorted because of her mental illness and our legal system does not seem to get it. That is why I take no comfort in the prospect of a trial. A trial was not just for Mike Tyson. It was also not just for Marv Albert. And it was an unfair financial disaster for William Kennedy Smith. John Bobbit's trial arrived at the truth, and he even got to launch a porn acting career. But he paid a pretty dear price when his about to be ex wife Lorena suffered a borderline psychosis. He never raped her, but he did reject her by falling asleep on her when she wanted to have sex with him one last time. It is all in my book, and you don't have to believe what I say, but read the entire book.
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Old 08-02-2003, 10:04 PM   #11
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A friend of mine in the U.S. Justice Department told me about a week ago that Kobe had beat-up and raped two white women sometime in the past. The women were afraid to come forward and press charges. After whats happening
to this victim I can understand their fear. Today on Fox News there was some mention of it but I am sure the police are
withholding as much information as possible until the trial. If they can get these two women to come forward and tell of their assault by Kobe it will seal his fate. Under current rules of prosecution other victims are allowed to testify for the prosecution to show a pattern of behavior that would indicate that he is more likely than not to have committed this assault on the current victim. I'm afraid that Kobe's fans have been hoodwinked into thinking he is just Mr. Nice Guy!



No names no facts just some friend told me and therefore he is guilty YEAH right you fool are you all idiots believing this horse shit. Look whats happening to her. Like we hear about her suicide attempts and see pics of her flashing in public and find out she has been in mental hospitals and shes a drug user and chases all kinds of stars. Yeah I guess hes the problem. OK
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Old 08-02-2003, 10:33 PM   #12
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That is why I take no comfort in the prospect of a trial. A trial was not just for Mike Tyson. It was also not just for Marv Albert. And it was an unfair financial disaster for William Kennedy Smith. It is all in my book, and you don't have to believe what I say, but read the entire book.



I give up. You are completely closed to any ideas/opinions/facts other than what you have written... even though you know nothing more about this case than anyone else. You are a closed-minded individual and that will remain a fact.

The only thing I am guilty of, is being open-minded to both sides of the case.
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Old 08-03-2003, 12:22 AM   #13
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I give up. You are completely closed to any ideas/opinions/facts other than what you have written... even though you know nothing more about this case than anyone else. You are a closed-minded individual and that will remain a fact.

The only thing I am guilty of, is being open-minded to both sides of the case.

I give up too because there should not even be a case that is pending if the justice system were doing its job properly. We agree to totally disagree. That is a fine American tradition which we are perpetuating, and I have no problem with that whatsoever.
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Old 08-03-2003, 05:36 AM   #14
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I give up too because there should not even be a case that is pending if the justice system were doing its job properly. We agree to totally disagree. That is a fine American tradition which we are perpetuating, and I have no problem with that whatsoever.



Why is it I read this post at least two hours ago,yet the time mark shows it having been posted about fifteen minutes ago central time?

why is it 4:44 AM Central time and the time mark shows it to be 9:36 Central time?
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Old 08-03-2003, 06:09 AM   #15
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