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Old 08-30-2005, 04:51 PM   #1
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Concealed Carry Gun Permit Saves a Life

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Wal-Mart shooting was first under concealed carry permit

By ASSOCIATED PRESS
August 30, 2005

ALBUQUERQUE (AP) - A fatal shooting at an Albuquerque Wal-Mart last week was the state's first by someone with a concealed-carry gun permit, authorities said.

Police said Felix Vigil was attacking his ex-wife with a knife near the store's deli counter where she worked when an armed customer intervened and shot him. The woman, Joyce Cordova, was treated for multiple stab wounds and later released from an Albuquerque hospital.

The armed customer, 72-year-old Due Moore, was interviewed after the shooting last Thursday and released.

Police spokeswoman Officer Trish Hoffman said it appeared the shooting was justified. However, it will be up to the district attorney to decide whether Moore, a volunteer with the police department's cold case unit, will be prosecuted.

Moore could not be reached for comment.

New Mexico allows citizens age 21 and over to carry concealed weapons if they complete firearms training and pass national and local criminal background checks.

Moore's fatal shot was the first fired by someone with a permit, according to state Department of Public Safety spokesman Peter Olson. The state has issued more than 3,100 permits since the gun law went into effect Jan. 1, 2004.

Moore took a class to get his permit just 13 days after the law went into effect, said Cody Patton, a manager at Calibre's National Shooters Sports Center in Albuquerque. That's where Moore was certified.

"He was the fourth person ever to sign up for a permit," Patton said. "I've now done more than 300 of them."

Patton said there has been a fair amount of interest in concealed-carry permits at his range _ in particular during the first four months after the law passed.



So this proves that CCW's do help with the proper training and background checks. Also, it proves that people over 65 can still hold their own.

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Old 08-30-2005, 07:28 PM   #2
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Re: Concealed Carry Gun Permit Saves a Life

Pretty cool, good use of it.
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Old 08-31-2005, 04:13 AM   #3
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Re: Concealed Carry Gun Permit Saves a Life

That right there is why I wanna get a concealed-carry permit. Not because I'm a parinoid gun-happy freak, but because you never know when shit's gonna get real.
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Old 08-31-2005, 05:50 AM   #4
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Re: Concealed Carry Gun Permit Saves a Life

Showed this article to my father-in-law. He was actually surprised that it took New Mexico that long to allow the permits. He currently carried a permit so that he can keep a gun on him while out camping. (we live in an area with some dangerous animals) He is also in the same age group as Moore, in his late fifties. I wonder Moore served in the military? Quite a few of the older people that I have met that carry permits, are also retired military.
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Old 08-31-2005, 11:41 AM   #5
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Re: Concealed Carry Gun Permit Saves a Life

There was a guy in Tyler TX with a CCP that tried to stop a shooter after he had lost his court case, and started shooting people in the courtroom.

He shot him 6 times in the chest but the shooter was wearing a vest and so it didn't kill him

The shooter then shot the guy with the CCP like 10 times or something
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Old 08-31-2005, 01:05 PM   #6
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Re: Concealed Carry Gun Permit Saves a Life

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There was a guy in Tyler TX with a CCP that tried to stop a shooter after he had lost his court case, and started shooting people in the courtroom.

He shot him 6 times in the chest but the shooter was wearing a vest and so it didn't kill him

The shooter then shot the guy with the CCP like 10 times or something

What a shame head shots aren't allowed.
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Old 08-31-2005, 09:13 PM   #7
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Re: Concealed Carry Gun Permit Saves a Life

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There was a guy in Tyler TX with a CCP that tried to stop a shooter after he had lost his court case, and started shooting people in the courtroom.

He shot him 6 times in the chest but the shooter was wearing a vest and so it didn't kill him

The shooter then shot the guy with the CCP like 10 times or something


i'm calling bs on this story cause at least here in ohio you can't even bring a gun into the courthouse if you are a cop that isn't stationed at the courthouse
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:07 AM   #8
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Re: Concealed Carry Gun Permit Saves a Life

Call BS all you want

Here is the complete story:
http://www.statesman.com/news/conte...02/25TYLER.html

Here is the story on the guy with the CHP:
http://johnrlott.tripod.com/2005/02...it-holders.html

So I was mistaken on the fact that it was outside the courthouse, but I have read many parts where it says inside and outside so I just went with what I remembered
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:14 AM   #9
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Re: Concealed Carry Gun Permit Saves a Life

So the dude saved a life by sacrificing his own. That's DAMNED noble. Specially going 9mm vs an AK-47...I'd hesitate myself on that one.
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Old 09-05-2005, 08:11 PM   #10
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Re: Concealed Carry Gun Permit Saves a Life

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That right there is why I wanna get a concealed-carry permit. Not because I'm a parinoid gun-happy freak, but because you never know when shit's gonna get real.

Damn straight. Not a paranoid monkey myself, but still, better prepared. I'm actually shocked that the court is even considering prosecuting the "savior". It would seem like he'd be thought better of than this.
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Old 09-07-2005, 02:48 PM   #11
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i'm calling bs on this story cause at least here in ohio you can't even bring a gun into the courthouse if you are a cop that isn't stationed at the courthouse


Dunno bout Ohio, but here in Georgia any LEO is allowed to carry in public buildings. I've had a CCW for over a year now, public buildings...such as court houses, gov't type buildings, public gatherings, sport events, and church gatherings are the only places im not allowed to carry. I'm totally behind CCW's, people have a right to bear arms and defend themselves.
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:25 AM   #12
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Re: Concealed Carry Gun Permit Saves a Life

I had a CCW in Indiana, you didn't need to do shit to get it.

Fill out like a half page application at the PD. Get a $20 money order, and send it off to the state police office.. two weeks later, my permit arived via US Mail.
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Old 09-23-2005, 12:48 PM   #13
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What a shame head shots aren't allowed.


???

I have never heard that a head shot wasn't allowed. At least not in Oklahoma. If deadly force is necessary, use it.
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Old 10-09-2005, 05:36 PM   #14
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Re: Concealed Carry Gun Permit Saves a Life

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i'm calling bs on this story cause at least here in ohio you can't even bring a gun into the courthouse if you are a cop that isn't stationed at the courthouse

It happened outside the courtroom. The guy used an SKS, and shot his wife and was about to shoot his son when Mark Wilson shot him 6 times and got shot himself. The police said that there's no question that Mark's action saved the son's life.
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Old 10-09-2005, 06:02 PM   #15
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Re: Concealed Carry Gun Permit Saves a Life

yes i know but i don't think guns are allowed inside the court house, which is what the guy said above that he was shooting in the courtroom, then he said it was outside the courthouse

btw nice to see you schutz
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