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07-27-2003, 07:33 PM
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DA'S EVIDENCE WILL CAUSE 'jaws to hit the floor'
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EAGLE - A close friend of the woman who claims Kobe Bryant raped her says the basketball star asked the woman for a tour of the mountain resort and invited her into his room shortly after he checked in.
Friend and former high school classmate Luke Bray and another friend said a casual conversation between Bryant and the woman on June 30 led Bryant to ask the 19-year-old hotel receptionist and concierge to show him around.
Bray said the woman was working the front desk at the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera in Edwards when Bryant, 24, a player for the Los Angeles Lakers, arrived about 10 p.m. The two had a friendly exchange as the woman processed Bryant's paperwork and handed him room keys, Bray said.
"She said she felt a certain amount of chemistry with him," Bray told The Denver Post.
A short time later, Bryant
asked the woman - a 2002 Eagle Valley High School graduate and University of Northern Colorado student - to show him around the resort, said Bray, who has talked at length with the woman during her recent stays with him and his wife, Starlene, also a high school friend.
The woman, flattered by Bryant's offer, accepted. She was on duty but not busy because of the late hour. She was due to go off duty at 11 p.m.
"She said he was just really down to earth, and that he was acting like a great guy," Bray said. "He was easy to talk to."
The two of them strolled around the main lodge of the sprawling 56- room resort. At some point, Bryant invited her into his room, Bray said.
"She had thoughts of declining," Bray said. "But he had been nice. She felt safe about doing that."
The woman told Bray that she soon realized it was nearly time for a shift change and that she had to be back at the front desk to punch out.
"Once she told him she had to leave, his attitude started to change," Bray said. "From there the story gets crazy."
The next day, the woman went with her parents to the Eagle County Sheriff's Office to report she had been raped. That day, Bryant had arthroscopic surgery on his knee at a clinic in Vail. Bryant surrendered to authorities July 4, posted $25,000 bond, and on Friday was charged with felony sexual assault.
Lawyers for the five-time NBA All-Star have maintained their client's innocence, while Bryant himself has said he had consensual sex with the hotel employee. His attorneys have not returned phone calls this week.
Bray refused to give details of what he called "the attack" because of requests from the woman's family and her attorney. But Bray said the woman has obvious physical injuries that are still visible three weeks after the incident.
"I can't wait for this to get in front of a jury so they can see what happened," Bray said. "Their jaws will hit the floor, and they will convict him."
District Attorney Mark Hurlbert has refused to comment on the facts of the case but said there was "alleged sexual penetration or intrusion" and that Bryant caused "submission of the victim through actual physical force."
Accounts have varied widely about how the woman ended up in Bryant's room - one version put her in his room while helping bellmen bring in bags, while another version held that Bryant sent bodyguards to fetch her.
Bray said that whatever happened after the incident is unclear because the woman was "really emotional and upset" as she left Bryant's room. Some reports have said the woman was hysterical and visibly upset. Bray said the woman doesn't remember much. He said she made the 30-minute drive from the lodge to her home in Eagle by herself and was home by midnight.
The next morning she told her mother and a friend about what happened, Bray said.
"It was her mother that knew right away what happened," Bray said. It was her mother, Bray said, who told the woman, "You were raped."
That it took 12 hours for the woman to go to authorities could be a problem for prosecutors, one legal expert said Tuesday.
"You would always point to a delay in reporting to show weakness in the accuser's case," Denver lawyer Maureen O'Brien said. "It gives someone time to make things up or to embellish a story."
Bryant's lawyers also could argue that the woman inflicted bruises on herself during that 12-hour lag time.
"If the physical evidence is a bruise or scratches, then the defense could point to that delay," O'Brien said. "Those things could come from anywhere - bumping into a table, for instance. They could be self-inflicted. It all adds a reasonable doubt."
Cynthia Stone with the Colorado Coalition Against Sexual Assault said it is not at all unusual for rape victims to wait before reporting a crime.
"It is very individualized how women respond to attacks," Stone said. "Women who accuse someone of rape have a lot to think about. Look at what this woman has been through."
Meanwhile Tuesday, more people jumped into a court case that will determine whether local authorities must release tapes of phone calls the woman made to police during the past year.
Authorities refused to release the tapes after the Vail Daily requested them. The newspaper also asked for all the police dispatches from the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera for the past 26 months.
All paperwork submitted by Tuesday afternoon was off-limits to the public. Local authorities have argued they will withhold the tapes in order to protect the victim's identity, while the newspaper argues that the tapes are public information.
Attorneys for the woman and the Eagle County District Attorney's Office filed first-time briefs. The Vail Daily and Eagle Police Department filed paperwork to supplement their original briefs.
Also, the woman who has been misidentified on the Internet as Bryant's accuser has hired an attorney, sources said. A number of websites show the woman's picture and mistakenly name her as Bryant's alleged victim.
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07-28-2003, 04:33 PM
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in my oppinion... any time you hear a variety of stories... none of them are true... it sounds to me like it's the girls mother behind all of this
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07-30-2003, 04:05 PM
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yeah no doubt, how much is she gonna make as assistant DA in "eagle county". whole family is ho's.
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08-08-2003, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by shannon
in my oppinion... any time you hear a variety of stories... none of them are true... it sounds to me like it's the girls mother behind all of this
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Agree.. what 19 year old needs her mother to tell her she's been raped. Either this girl is extremely stupid or extremely controlled by her parents....
Furthermore, if these "family friends" can make statements, why can't the girl. I suggest she grow up and try to develop a mind of her own.
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08-08-2003, 03:16 PM
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i don't think she needed her mother to tell her that she'd been raped but i think her mom convinced her to go to the police. she probably wouldn't have otherwise. it's fucking up her nba groupie gig.
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08-08-2003, 03:39 PM
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"srubbba" has a voice, no? Where were the screams of RAPE! RAPE!, oh yeah they were, gimmie the golden load kobe, gimmie it good...
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08-08-2003, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by arfurvirus
"srubbba" has a voice, no? Where were the screams of RAPE! RAPE!, oh yeah they were, gimmie the golden load kobe, gimmie it good...
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No shit. i'd be like HELP! HELP!! or NO! NO!
it was all consensual, in my educational guess here.
what really happened was that she probably went home and told her mom that she had sex with Kobe Bryant. Her mom probably flipped out, and said "you don't fuck black guys! I will disown you!". small town, racist parents. typical. "You tell the police he raped you!".
she probably needs money too.
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08-14-2003, 01:57 PM
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The case is simple. Kate needed to leave his room after being invited up there, but Kobe wanted sex. He forced her to stay, and finally she gave in to have sex with him. She felt weird about it, so she told her mother. Her mother told her she got raped.
As for the bruises and whatever else, there are many ways how they got there. Either she had them before, Kobe had rough sex with her, Kobe grabbed her and forced her to stay in the room, or she did it herself.
If she knew she had to press charges because her mother told her too, she needed some evidence. And if a girl is willing to try and commit suicide 4 times, I can guarantee she'd give herself cuts and bruises to try and win the case.
Do not totally blame Kate here. Kobe made her stay in the room, Kate then agreed, and then Kate's mom told her to go to the police. All 3 people contributed to this.
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08-30-2003, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jacq23
Agree.. what 19 year old needs her mother to tell her she's been raped. Either this girl is extremely stupid or extremely controlled by her parents....
Furthermore, if these "family friends" can make statements, why can't the girl. I suggest she grow up and try to develop a mind of her own.
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Gawd, I am so tired of idiotic posts.
1) Most women that have been raped never go to the police
2) Coddled superstars with manufactured reputations (like OJ) are difficult to accuse of something wrong, hence idiots like you attack her and call her names.
Kobe Bryant is a man ho who will MAYBE get a reacharound in prison if he's lucky
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08-30-2003, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Otis T. Bass
Gawd, I am so tired of idiotic posts.
1) Most women that have been raped never go to the police
2) Coddled superstars with manufactured reputations (like OJ) are difficult to accuse of something wrong, hence idiots like you attack her and call her names.
Kobe Bryant is a man ho who will MAYBE get a reacharound in prison if he's lucky
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Don't bother attacking me cuz I'm convinced most of the people on here have never actually read an actual objective news story nor have reached puberty
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08-30-2003, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Otis T. Bass
Don't bother attacking me cuz I'm convinced most of the people on here have never actually read an actual objective news story nor have reached puberty
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I think I am in the majority here when I say, I don't give a fuck what you are convinced of Otis! Exactly how did you reach this conclusion? Just because we come on a site like this to get the truth that your so called "objective" media doesn't have the balls to talk about? The main stream media is made up of a bunch of corporate pussies. This place is a compilation of opinions from people that want to hear all sides of the story. If you don't like it, go read your "objective" news.
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08-30-2003, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Firebird
I think I am in the majority here when I say, I don't give a fuck what you are convinced of Otis! Exactly how did you reach this conclusion? Just because we come on a site like this to get the truth that your so called "objective" media doesn't have the balls to talk about? The main stream media is made up of a bunch of corporate pussies. This place is a compilation of opinions from people that want to hear all sides of the story. If you don't like it, go read your "objective" news.
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My point exactly.
You've obviously never had a job or read a newspaper so I will put you on ignore because you're a flaming idiot
Kobe will fry. 4 years sheesh. Lakers won't recover and the young Bulls will snatch the title from the hapless Lakers in a coup of unprecedented proportion (explanation for Firebird "coup" meaning seizing power without knowledge of the masses)
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08-30-2003, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Otis T. Bass
My point exactly.
You've obviously never had a job or read a newspaper so I will put you on ignore because you're a flaming idiot
Kobe will fry. 4 years sheesh. Lakers won't recover and the young Bulls will snatch the title from the hapless Lakers in a coup of unprecedented proportion (explanation for Firebird "coup" meaning seizing power without knowledge of the masses)
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WOW, trying to impress with your intelligence in a completely different thread from where I pointed out your stupidity....that is typical.
I do have a job as an insurance agent and have been doing quite well for 8 years, thanks.
No I don't read the paper because the paper prints shit and I can read the same shit on the internet.
The Bulls suck, the Jazz are have always been my favorite, and so are the Lakers now that they got Karl Malone.
Kobe will be aquitted or if he is convicted he will recieve probation.
Ignore that Otis
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08-31-2003, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Firebird
WOW, trying to impress with your intelligence in a completely different thread from where I pointed out your stupidity....that is typical.
I do have a job as an insurance agent and have been doing quite well for 8 years, thanks.
No I don't read the paper because the paper prints shit and I can read the same shit on the internet.
The Bulls suck, the Jazz are have always been my favorite, and so are the Lakers now that they got Karl Malone.
Kobe will be aquitted or if he is convicted he will recieve probation.
Ignore that Otis
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Kobe will be acquitted because he is innocent. Unfortunately, Mike Tyson did not rape Desiree Washington but he went to prison for three years. Our justice system was not just in his case, and very few people understand what happened there. Read my book and you shall understand.
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My book explains the Kobe case and other major scandals of the last decade. It deals with Borderline Personality Disorder and how it is fooling our system of justice. It can be found free on the internet at www.totaleclipseofthetruth.com Moderator approved URL
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08-31-2003, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by irawish
Kobe will be acquitted because he is innocent. Unfortunately, Mike Tyson did not rape Desiree Washington but he went to prison for three years. Our justice system was not just in his case, and very few people understand what happened there. Read my book and you shall understand.
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Finaly he comes out of the dark to make another shameless plug for his book - missed ya bud.
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