pimp monkey

ok... i have to say that is the must uneducated fucking dumb thing i have herd in a long time.

augue all you want to about religion, but please get your facts straight on physics.

rodion

okay, few points here...

A) The torah is the first five books of the old testament, not the whole old testament itself. You're gonna end up pissing off a lot of rabis keeping up that talk

B) The bible was not written by a bunch of people trying "to advertise their religion". The old testament was primarily written as a history of the Jewish people. Since their history and governming laws were pretty much joined at the hip with their religions viewpoints, you couldn't really talk about the one without the other. The first four books of the bible were an account of this guy from Nazareth named Jesus who shook things up quite a bit, written some 30-90 years after his death. You don't see anybody getting up in arms if someone writes a Martin Luther King biography or some other civil or peoples movement's leader, so don't know what the big deal there is. The only thing close to what could be called an "advertisement" were the following letters and epistles by various authors, most of which were written in response to questions from groups of people and other nationalities who had heard about this Jesus.

C) Religion can have quite a bit of power associated with it. And we all know what we crazy humand let power do to us. The beauty is, most religions were founded on the principles of humble men. I'm sure if Jesus were to come around today again, the first people in line for an ass woopin' would be the christian coalition, as his biggest beef in his life was with the authoritarian religious leaders of his day. Christianity was meant to be a religions spread by EXAMPLE, based on the two simplified versions of the Law formerly called the 10 commandments. Apparently making it simpler still couldn't get the message through our heads.

D) Science doesn't disprove God, God doesn't disprove science.

E) Just because you don't subscribe to a religion, doesn't make you instantly a mental giant or instantly superior to those who do. Just like everything else, every sect of humanity has some good ones, and some bad ones. (except the nazis.....fucking nazis!)

I personally have no religion, I have a very loose, undefined belief in God, a little better understood notion of spirituality, think Jesus was pretty damned cool, especially once removed from the context several groups have given his life that kinda missed the point, and oh yeah, I am 100% right about everything.

DIB

treydogg526tx

but you can't go any further.... what's matter? how did it get here?

matter (noun) -1. that which has mass and occupies space
"an atom is the smallest indivisible unit of matter"
Synonyms: substance

now, how do you weight matter? by mass right? but is mass equal to matter? no way, explain why would float on water? ohhhh that's right because of density right?

density (noun) -1. the amount per unit size
Synonyms: denseness

so is that the mass that density is based off of? It goes back to whoever was saying that that bible was written for people that were stupid, so is science, 300 years from now the word "matter" will probably be silly.

pimp monkey

actualy, protons, neutrons, and elections are matter and have mass. andd those in turn are made up of subatomic particles whoch also are matter and thus mass.

You dont weigh matter by mass, weight is a function of gravational force exerted and the mass of an object. hence things weight less on the moon than on earth.

treydogg526tx

true, but weight is based on the pull of the object and the density of the object.

pimp monkey

density has nothign to do with weight, density can be thought of mass/size while weight can be thought of as mass*gravity

treydogg526tx

no do'nt get me wrong weight is the vertical force exerted by a mass as a result of gravity, I'm just simply trying to ask where matter comes from, (and don't tell me an explosion, that's impossiable to believe) hince where God comes into play.

(ESC) : wq

pimp monkey

sorry man, the big bang model explains that.

and we do haev direct evidence that the big bang did in fact happen.

treydogg526tx

what the the universe is expanding? if you can name one other situation in life where Perfection (eg: the earth) is created out of Chaos (eg: explosion) I'd lkove to hear it.

pimp monkey

the universe is expanding from a yet un explained force, basicly an antigravity, or accelerating force. the expansion is actualy accelerating. but direct eivdence has been gathered from our environment, background radiation, light, etc. there have actualy been many great discoverys in the last year analyizing all this, read up on it. as for earth being perfect, thats rather humerious. we got lucky, and probability dictates that other places in the vast univers probably got lucky too.

i should have gone into astro physics.

rodion

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uhmmm.........since when is the earth perfection. We've only just recently been able to discover the barest hints of evidence that there are planets in other solar systems, and certainly not enough info to see how they might stack up to ours. So in a universe that could could contain trillions of planets or more, we're gonna base perfection on the nine (maybe 10, we're not even smart enough to know that for sure yet) planets is our solar system. And a long time ago the earth was flat, and people got excommunicated as heretics for thinking the whole universe didn't revolve around the earth. Well, a�‰parently some things still don't change...

pimp monkey

it all revolves around my ass

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Carsten, I start to think you're a smart guy, then you say the world revolves around your ass!?

Anyway, as far as evidence does suggest, there is a tenth planet. We have neither seen it, nor proven it, but as far as physics are concerned, it makes sense. They say it explains why the outer planets are hanging around out there. Apparently, it would have to be a very large planet. It's possible. It has been dubbed "Planet X". As I've mentioned, the Sumerians called it Nibiru. They had very advanced mathematics, and were by no means ignorant.

Rob, when it comes to gravity, no one knows WHAT causes gravity. Particle attraction isn't gravity. Gravitons have been explained, but not proven.

Where the Big Bang is concerned... The "proof" lies in massive amounts of gamma radiation and other trace signatures that physicists have been compiling for years, and will compile for many more years. There are many different speculations on how the beginning of the universe came about, one being matter/anti-matter collision. If I'm not mistaken, that one has been disproven, being that a lab in Sweden has recently proven anti-matter, and if it would have caused an explosion large enough to cause a Big Bang effect, I wouldn't be writing this.

peptofunk

while you guys are posting in this thread im gonna jack off. lets see who's got something to show for their efforts when its all over.