Kevin P.

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I have tried to understand how a band works their way up through the trenches (over usually a long period of lean hungry times)to national recognition, only to be slammed for not doing the same old shtick over and over again. Or being slammed for doing just that same as the last album thing. Is it you thinking that way on your own, or is it you being told how and what to think?

h0sepipe

usually the people that say that have loved the band since the very beginning and notice a change in the music. obviously if my favorite band was the likes of a good example, "Good Charlotte", and I liked their first CD, then they come out with the skull-incinerating pop music they have now, I would be very disappointed.

because you know that they realized, "Hey man, we made a lot of money doing that pop thing compared to punking it up, so let's keep playing these keyboard sounds for our new fans."

but that's just off the top of my head, some bands I dont know about.

adrenaline

Selling out to me, is when a band changes their sound to try to get a certain group of listeners. Im all for them trying to make money but when they start pissing on the audience that was there from the beginning!

LIMP BiZkit comes to mind..

3 dolla bill ya'll was awesome.. then they go make a song called "nookie" WTF?

koЯnut

I couldn't agree more. Even my boys in koRn have made a couple I thought were a little on the weak side. But I'm a fan till I die.

fyrwulv

i think that they are sell-outs if they make music just for the money, such as metallica from black album to present. if they change just to make the green then they are definately sell-outs. but don't get me wrong, just cause they sell out does not mean they make bad music. look at black sabbath, they were sell-out from the very beginning. they were originally a blues and jazz band called earth. and yes i have been a fan of ozzy's since i first heard of him, before the split from sabbath.

Wayne Brady

C,mon! They weren't that good of a blues band, but when they turned to Sabbath it's not like they were a hippy band. That would have been an obvious sell out.

Jabooty_3

I thought "seeling out" meant going corporate and selling all your songs for tv, movies, etc? I heard a lot of people say Moby sold out with his latest album, a lot of his songs were in commercials.

gosman316

First of all Sabbath never "sold out." Yes as Earth they played a different style, but if anything they changed ot incorporate more of what they were as musicians. Selling out comes when a band experiences some mainstream success playing their style of music (e.g. Metallica with ...And Justice for All), and then alters their style of music to appeal to a wider fanbase (e.g. Metallica with the Blck Album, Load, Reload, etc). Sabbath was not some underground blues band that decided a switch to metal would increase their mass appeal, they just decided to create another type of music that happened to absolutely rule.

daknak

when a band charges fucking 50$ a ticket, and i know that may seem reasonable for some but i mean if a band can make perfectly decent money by charging 15-25$ for a ticket then what gives them the right to charge these ridiculus prices just so they can go home to their mansions and eat caviar

ringo00

As a semi-professional musician, I have to say that selling out is doing anything just "for the money". Metallica did not "sell out" by creating the black album. They sold out by creating Load and Reload. The black album was a departure from their musical roots but that is mainly because they didn't want to make Master of Puppets "part 2". Load and Reload were sellout albums because Metallica changed styles to match the trends of the time. Load and Reload weren't necessarily bad, but they were not what Metallica should have done. I was glad to hear St. Anger. That album is not what I would call good, but at least it is not a sellout album. They put their hearts into that one, and to me that makes it worthwile.

In case you haven't picked up on it yet,
Metallica Rocks, still. :rock:

beefyboy242

yeah, and many classics are overlooked for their talent and for them setting the standard. Heard of the misfits? notice how if you didnt hear them first then it sounds like a copy off of everyone else. THEY STARTED IT. Green Day seems too popular now, so i dont listen to them nearly as much. Mainly the Clash, Dead Kennedys, The Misfits, Pennywise, Metallica, Black Sabbath (ozzy, noobs), and some death metal. There are also some other bands i do not want to list since they will be looked down upon as poseurs while nearly everyone else is in reality. oh, yeah, and god save the original rock and roll like ac/dc, van halen, stix, G&R, etc. The ones that make the original rock. and damn alternative and pop rock bands to hell. damn star 101.9 to hell(HI station). thnx.