Jimi

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but their rights won't be taken away, nor does anyone have the power to do it.

CD

We do have a tv channel... It's called SpikeTV.



Whites and Christians discriminate against others every day. Don't believe me? Then join me in upstate South Carolina and lets take a trip to Bob Jones campus.
As far as the banning of the Constitution goes, I agree that they were stupid. I will admit that I do not like the idea of creationism being taught, but there comes a point where the bullshit needs to stop. For the love of God, I still have ZERO qualms about saying "Under God", and I also celebrate Christmas every year.


If it bothers you to be called a cracker then why don't you say so to the black person who says it? Just say that would be the same as you calling him the "n" word and you wouldn't stoop to those levels. Make him feel bad AND do something about it in just a few sentences. BRILLIANT!

Make sure before you call discrimination, you aren't guilty of being hypocritical yourself. I'm sure it's easy to forget past discressions and then complain when others do it. Not saying you have... just saying...

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Jimi

Yes, I was reminded about Spike TV (thanks AMH), however, I'm talking more along the lines of man TV aimed at whites. Would never happen.

In San Antonio, some people tried starting the White Police Officer's Association. It was dropped like a used condom. However, there are black and hispanic Police Officer's Associations.

AmorMiHombre

I'm sorry, but calling someone a "cracka" and calling someone a "nigger" is not the same thing...not even close and never will be.

Go ahead...i do it...i also watch my back when i see anyone shady.

That's friggin sick cause i said the EXACT SAME THING to Jimi earlier and he told me to shush...That's insane.

CD

Wow... we have similar thoughts! Wanna make out? :jill:

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see exactly the point, disrespect is disrespect no matter what you call it, that is the whole double standard issue, i can't call you something but you can call me something referring to my skin color that is disrespectful, i hope you do see this weird contradiction in today's society, that is the whole issue

and spike is that way in considering men v. women, but do you think a white entertainment television would fly?

and i am not opposed to racial names, my friends and i make fun of each other any way we can, because we can discern the humor in it, i have a friend that is whiter than snow with his father black and he has no problem when a white person teases him for being black it is actually very funny when he jokes about it, i just think it is weird that black people can use nigger, but i can't, give me the reasoning behind that, it can't be good from one person and bad from another, unless there is something behind it that white people don't know

Jimi

Except cracker isn't a word that signifies the ultimate oppression by the white man to the slaves.

Cracker isn't a word that sums up an antire era of oppression in a small package.

CE, did you ever notice that your avatar has a left limp?

Car Enthusiast

ha, not really, lets not think of it as a limp and more of a pimp walk

Car Enthusiast

so can someone tell me why it is okay for blacks to use it but not anyone else

i am not for using it in a negative way, but i wish people would look past the word and see how it is used, the reason why blacks allow each other say it is cause it is more of a symbol of brotherhood, so why can't someone else show the same level of brotherhood towards them, cause not only minorities in america have went through a struggle

AmorMiHombre

I have friends that i joke around with as well, but i expect them to not call me a nigger, just as i don't call them/him a kike...There are just some words that don't need to be used...Especially words with a painful past that were/are used to keep people down and put them in their place and still strike an uncomfortable feeling with many people...

Nigger is a huge insult with an enormous history unlike calling someone Whitey or Cracker. (As Clemson suggested, if someone is upset at being called cracker, or ANYTHING for that matter, say something).

Why we/they call themselves 'nigga' is beyond me...I couldn't tell you. I used to hang around my friends and say "nigga please" all the time and most of them were white kids...That was until i would find myself around random black people and i'd feel silly and stupid going "nigga please" or "i'll talk to y'all niggas lata". Why? Because if they took one look at me i'd probably be slapped, but i have just as much right to say it. Either way i can't tell you why people use it.

I only wish i could better articulate why there is a vast difference between calling someone a cracker and a nigger....yes, they are both insults, but the weight they carry varies greatly (perhaps that is the best way of putting it. see that? compromise )

Jimi

I don't think ANYONE should... but shit, in that case, they are more than welcomed to use the word, since it was them who were the oppressed.

CD

1) It's not ok for blacks to say it and if you want them to stop then make them realize that. So what if they call you a cracker, be the bigger man who doesn't have to get the last word in or stoop to a lower level. Hold yourself up high, cause the "2 wrongs don't make a right" is usually sage advice.

2) brotherhood?... Since when in hell are you a brother to them?
Reality alert: You're white!
There are white people I've known for years who have lived a totally different lifestyle then I have. And because of this I initially had no "connection" with them. After the years go by then friendships grow and there becomes a bond... but it is a friendship bond and isn't as strong (usually) as someone you have known your entire life. I was really good friends with a black guy in college, and yet I would never call him a nigger or "my brother" out of respect for the guy.

3) Tell ya what... you can talk about struggles when you are poor, father lost his job while you were young, a fire destroyed your house, etc... Struggling is also having to deal with slavery, not being allowed to go to school, being beaten by white supremeasist assholes, etc...
The difference is that the first set of struggles happens to everyone while the last set only happened to blacks.

So tell me again what struggles you went through again?

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Chameleon Grrl

I think a lot of people missed a key element of my original post. Oppression by definition comes from those in power positions. (prejudice + power = oppression, remember?) Therefore it's impossible for those in power positions to be oppressed. If anyone seriously wants to debate the fact that whites, men, and straights have power positions over nonwhites, women, and gays and bisexuals then that's great but it's probably another thread.

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seriously i still cannot believe people use slavery, how long ago did it occur?, i mean i can think of other nationalities that were oppressed by someone that do not talk about that now, personally i do not feel any affects from my descendants from that time in history, slavery was a bad thing in american history, but has nothing to do with me being white, i have never owned a slave and neither have my parents or grandparents as for that matter. I mean how far are we allowed to go back into history to find someway that a race is downtrodden to use as an excuse for today?

and the only people in power today are rich people, you think because i am white/male/heterosexual i somehow have somekind of power?