Justin

Actually the republicans were the driving force in civil and minority rights.

Jimi

John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Jr., Robert Kennedy, Dwight Eisenhower....

who were you talking about?

The hippies were not Republicans!

Justin

I'm talking votes in the house and the senate.

And if JFK was alive today he would be a republican.

Jimi

Show me some of those records of votes. :happycow: When the higher politicians were democrats, you'll have to point me in the direction of exactly which votes were Republican.

Justin

I will do some research.

Justin

Here are a couple of articles, biased source maybe but take the facts they point out and try to prove them wrong.

http://policy.house.gov/html/news_release.cfm?id=158

here is an exerpt




http://www.freecongress.org/commentaries/040706pw.asp


another exerpt

Car Enthusiast

justin is right though, no one ever thinks about when someone refers to the majority white/christian population in a negative way but when someone does the same thing to a minority watch what happens

AmorMiHombre

Well it seems your sources are a bit biased, and Richard Russell (Southern Democrat), who was against the Civil Rights Bill was a SOUTHERNER who was able to get 18 other SOUTHERN democratic senators behind him....So then you're dealing with a divide of ideals within a party....As, my source says, It just shows that the South (dem or rep) wasn't entirely for equality and justice for all.....

My source also says that it was Russell who ended the filibuster and allowed the Bill to be passed..... (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAcivil64.htm)

P.S. As far as i can tell, my source is unbiased.

Bergs

Thank you for actually reading my post. Seriously, most people don't actually read others' posts. With that in mind, I'd like to take the time to respond to you. First, I'm an incredibly liberal person. Most of the people on my floor at a rather liberal college call me too liberal. So, don't get me wrong, I'm all for equal rights (Although, with a more integral approach than what we see currently, if you know anything about the works of Ken Wilbur. Different discussion for a different day though). Either way, I've had a rather liberal upbringing. With that in mind, I know when my own crede has led us astray. I think the type of morals that the OP was talking about is one of these things.

I don't think you quitting your job would solve anything. Unless, of course, you have kids under the age of 10 being raised by a TV instead of a real human being. Latchkey kids... the equal rights movement created these. With more people in the workplace, less home instruction in the fine art of being nice to people. That's what the OP was talking about. Equal rights movement was an enormous event in the history of mankind. It propelled us into the modern era. But you can't say that it created more double-income households. Before said era, most women were housewives. During said era, many more households where both parents work. I don't care if it's less dads or less moms talking to their kids. It's less parents, and that's what has killed our personable culture.

LS1-S10

Abortion rates were probably higher during the 1950's due to the lack of a reliable contraceptive, and its still not morally accepted to have a child before being married. The essence of life WAS better in the 1950's, and no im not relating my opinion to the show "Leave it to Beaver". My father, my grandparents...people from actual experience from the time all tell me of how horrible the country has become infront of there eyes. How there was times where you actually had neighbors and a community, where FAMILY was the upmost concern.

Life has become too fast paced, everyone looks out for themselves and pretty much just says screw anybody else. People have become sue happy to the point where people are scared to speak there mind for fear of being sued for slander. You can't even hunt on private land anymore with just verbal permission....you have to have signed documentation on your person or you get criminal tresspass. The only thing i can even say that has progressed in a positive way since the pre-vietnam era is medicine. More Americans are out of jobs due to outsourcing because of the fact that everyone cares more about there own pocket than they do the American way of life. Its just really remarkable how the majority of people in this country have become so angry and so un-caring for others, its even rare for me to get a thank you from holding a door for someone in public. But were soooo better off now because were all "equal" now with all of the equal right's movements. Personally i think it's all made us into equal assholes! With all the added groups that support the countries minority population, and all the added benefits and clauses the government has for minority's.....its now the majority that has the hardest time in this country.

Inflation is at its all time greatest and minimum wage is at its lowest, my local newspaper has an average of 10 jobs in the want-ads....none of them paying above $10 hour, most of them being cheap OTR trucking jobs. Drug abuse by teens is at an all time high, teenage pregnancy is higher than ever. The average age a child first tries drugs is now 12 years old.This country's crime rate is unbelieveable, people gripe about how many soldiers we've lost in IRAQ for no reason. Look at how many homicide's happen in the US for no reason, but yet no one complains because they can't blame that on Pres. Bush. All in all, i think the way of life today sucks because everyone spends so much time with there head up there own asses that they can't get a breath of fresh air and see whats REALLY going on.

AmorMiHombre

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Um, minimum wage at 10$ an hour?? Please tell me where you live and i'll be on the first plane. Hasn't the age of a child first trying a cigarette/drug/drink been around 12 for years now? And crime in my state has been decreasing.

To say that life WAS better for everyone so many years ago isn't the total truth....

There are other stories of how life wasn't so grand in the 50s, 60s, et cetera for everyone...I don't know what nationality you are and i can't tell based on your picture, so i won't say, "well life WOULD be different/better becasue you are a white male!" as that would be assuming. However it's assuming to say that life was better because it was good times for your family. I agree with Chameleon Grrrrl and her post...Times change. Everyone bitches about outsourcing yet no one wants to give up their precious Walmart and 10$ microwaves and cheap tv's. (Justin can cover that topic better).

You said the way life is today makes you wanna take your kid to a small town...Go ahead....but i'm sure you'll still find drugs, murder, theft and problems in a small town...

My mom would probably say things have changed and not necessarily ALL for the best, as well, but that's life. And if you have a problem with how things are going, get to know your neighbors, conserve energy, have dinners at home with your family, smile and say thank you to everyone....live life how you wish it was; at least this way, at the end of the day, you can say you aren't being hypocritical in spewing how horrible the world has become while being a part of, or adding to, the "problem".

LS1-S10

You couldn't be farther away from what i was getting at. First off what i meant by none of the jobs paying above $10 and hour was that there are no decent paying jobs hardly left open anymore for blue collar workers. Minimum wage is $5.75 an hour which if your were to add into the fact of inflation it's the lowest amount it has ever been.

As for your comment on small towns....i think the biggest problem small southern rural towns have is Billy bob growing pot, or tresspassing on property. The farm community my fathers side of the family comes from hasn't had a murder in over 30 years and personally i've never heard of a drug problem....my great aunt still sleeps with her doors unlocked. So yeah im sure there's still just as much drugs, murder, and all other crimes in rural areas as in urban ones.

I spend every dollar on self owned/operated businesses locally as i can, because coming from a family that has all operated our own businesses i know how much competition large outsourcing company's pose on us. What im getting at is how people have become so greedy and so self centered that the majority of the American public is the cause of our country spiraling down a dark tunnel. People would rather save $.15 on a product at wal-mart than spend the money with someone from there own community, personally i pay the extra .15. Just as an example, when i owned my resturaunt i had a man cuss me out at my own drive thru because my coffee was $.10 more than Hardee's, is that not insane?


And yes, i probably will move to a more secluded less populated area than what i am in now. Even though its not very large, pop. roughly 40,000, this town is getting worse and worse every year. More gang shit popping up everywhere, we have police full time at our schools now because of kids threatening to shoot there teachers, slowly but surely this place is becoming a small urbanized Atlanta. If you think that they way of life today is so grand, take a stroll in Brooklyn or Compton or New York city, or even if you live there take a vacation or visit a small population rural town/community. Most people say its like traveling back in time.....theres a reason for that.

Jimi

Yes, the job market these days sucks.... so much for Bush making bigger and better jobs for our booming American economy! :happycow:

Car Enthusiast

i just got a job monday thank god for bush :happycow: