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Old 12-13-2004, 09:33 PM   #1
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welfare...

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do you guys think this program should be cancelled? i think most of the people abuses it... and people that needs it does not get it..

I seen people at food stores buying all kind of brand products (from gatorade to brand cereals) paying with food stamps and going to their luxurious cars... that to me is pure bs...

when i lived in Chicago i knew a lady in the apartment downstairs (she was around 40), and she got section 8 (her brother in law was the landlord), goverment gave her food stamps, paid her telephone, and the biatch was driving a corvette ....

should it be better if we had some kind of agreement between companies and goverment where instead of people in welfare they should be sent to work and the companies get some kind of tax benefit for providing those jobs? or at least have those guys do certain amount of communiy service in exchange for the food stamps?

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Old 12-13-2004, 09:50 PM   #2
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Re: welfare...

It's definitely a tough situation. In theory it's a great program (help the helpless and feed the hungry). In practice it seems to be far from a great program.

My only real experience was with a rental house that my dad got out of foreclosure when I was a kid. I helped him to fix/remodel it and saw a lot of the people who rented. The people who lived there were 2nd or 3rd gen welfare and their kids went to the same school I did. They always seemed to have new Nikes and nice Levi jeans and ate Lunchables. They trashed the place and only agreed to pay the money they owed upon being kicked out in exchange for my dad signing off that they were decent renters. (That promissory note isn't worth the paper it's printed on).

Sweet to try and help some people out (best intentions) only to propagate the sham lifestyle they're leading.

It's people like that who screw the system up for people with legitimate needs and hardships.
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Old 12-13-2004, 10:17 PM   #3
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Re: welfare...

Its really a good thing...............on paper. The fact is almost any Tom, Dick, and Harry can get goverment issued help.
I worked with guys making about 14 bucks an hour and they were getting food stamps. This is with the guys only having one or two kids!
As a matter of fact, when I was working and my wife was going to school, she was getting letters all the time saying she was qualified for food stamps. Even though we were doing just fine.
I know people need it. Kids need it. But we really need to find a better way to determine who really needs it and who just is taking advantage.
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Old 12-13-2004, 11:16 PM   #4
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Re: welfare...

I'm like you three. I work in a grocery store and all day I see people buying hundreds of dollars of brand name foods and then they make me wheel it out to their brand new SUV or car and they don't even tip me. I live in West Virginia, though I don't like to admit it on account of the stereotype of being stupid, people abuse it waaaay too much. Even though my mom is retired, my dad works and they're putting my brother and me through college, we're driving really old cars because we can't throw money into a new car while all these people get everything for free. Most of the users don't even know how to use their card. They just flash it and make working people make it work. The welfare system is almost incentive to be lazy and get everything you want. I think the system was intended to be used in a completely different way than what it is today. It think it is a horrible system now.
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Old 12-16-2004, 11:32 AM   #5
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Re: welfare...

I commented more broadly on govt. in another thread, but I'll put here that I'm not a fan of the welfare state.
My way of thinking, you can do whatever you want , but don't expect me to pay for it if you mess up badly while doing it . Hence the reduction of the welfare state (and no universal health care, stuff like that), and the relaxation of laws such as marijuana (although I draw the line at most other drugs, as legalizing cocaine, PCP, etc. would cause many more public safety threats than the legalization of marijuana)
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Old 12-16-2004, 02:52 PM   #6
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Re: welfare...

the only thing i think is weird, dems, repubs, and the population all do not like the current welfare system and yet it still doesn't get fixed
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