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Old 11-29-2004, 11:47 AM   #46
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Re: Are you American?

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Ahhh hell. I'll throw my two cents in.
I think my biggest issue with the language is this. In the past 10-15 years, we have spent millions and millions of dollars making forms and various other items bi-lingual. Now, for southern californians, this is a problem because of the huge illegal immigration problem. We are trying to accomodate the illegal immigrants which I have a problem with. Typically illegal immigrants DON'T pay taxes. Furthermore illegals (and legals) send Billions of dollars back accross to Mexico (according to Western Union).
Don't get me wrong, my whole shop is filled with Mexican Americans and I love them. There hard workers with great morals.
I think I got off the subject a little, but in closing, I don't like what the illegal population is doing to southern california.


When I go to the store and know a person is illegal, I don't see the option where the tax is waived because of it.

Money sent to other countries is taxed as well.

I don't see why the Mexi-Am comment was necessary, there are also other types of illegal immigrants in so cal. Asians are the number one growing minority and Cali doesn't know how to react to it
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Old 11-29-2004, 12:35 PM   #47
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Re: Are you American?

uhu im not american im from brazil
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Old 11-29-2004, 03:05 PM   #48
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No, this isn't about passing by a group of people. This is going out to dinner with people, who all share a common language, while a few in the group decide to speak in a language that the rest of the group doesn't understand. Working in a group of americans, spanish, asians and others, english is the language we share, because we happen to be in an english speaking area. When you are in a group or in conversation with people that share a common language, it's rude to speak in a language that everyone doesn't understand, it's the same as whispering.
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Old 11-29-2004, 08:53 PM   #49
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Not being rude or sarcastic or anything, but aren't people from Spain Spanish?
If they're called something else I'd be happy to know as I've been calling them Spanish all of my life.

Anyway, I live in Canada and around here you hear English and French being spoken all of the time, which pretty much every Canadian is used to. However, it's also not uncommon at all to hear Spanish, Japanese, Chinese, German, etc.
I've never heard anyone say that people in Canada should either speak English or French or leave.
I also agree that it's absolutely wrong to force anyone to speak a certain language amongst themselves.



thats what i thought too. i have a friend who is from spain and she calls them spanish.
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Old 11-29-2004, 08:55 PM   #50
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oh yeah, another time in high school i was talkin to a mexican girl and i said "... spanish people ..." and she got pissed at me tellin me spanish is a language not the people and movin her head side to side
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Old 11-29-2004, 11:12 PM   #51
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When I go to the store and know a person is illegal, I don't see the option where the tax is waived because of it.

Money sent to other countries is taxed as well.

I don't see why the Mexi-Am comment was necessary, there are also other types of illegal immigrants in so cal. Asians are the number one growing minority and Cali doesn't know how to react to it



I think he's referring to income and state tax. If there working here illegally, then most likely there being paid under the table.
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Old 11-30-2004, 03:16 PM   #52
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Re: Are you American?

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I think he's referring to income and state tax. If there working here illegally, then most likely there being paid under the table.

I know he meant that, and I meant to corect him that we ALL pay taxes regardless. ALL illegals get paid under the table as it is illegal to hire these people. BUT, not all of them skip on taxes, in fact, a lot of them that use fake SSN's can file for a return using a temp number issued by the IRS. This temp SSN is not a working permit, but simply a dummy number so the IRS can file their W-2's and not confuse them for another identity. Trust me on this, I've seen it first hand. The one's that don't know about this, simply don't file for a return and thus the government actually makes more money off of them than a legal citizen/resident because their tax bracket would allow them a return and their employer has automatically over taxed them on their pay roll. The ones that get paid cash, someone has to report where that money is going, so, the boss's have already gotten taxed on this.

I've seen more creative tax returns from legal citizens/residents, but I digress. This thread was about language, not about taxes.

Stay on topic ladies and gents.
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Old 12-06-2004, 01:29 AM   #53
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LOL don't think you have all the hot girls dude... lots of white guys love us asian chicks :P



I for one want to point out that I am one of the those "white guys" and I love Kulotsalot... errrr. Asian chics." anyway.

Lets not forget folks. This is the home of the free. Everyone is entitled to speak the launge they want.

This is more a question of etiquette. Was it right for the guy to talk about the mexican men for speaking to each other? NO. But like any other biggot it's just poor etiquette.

Is it right for anyone to speak in secret in a line of people. NO. But it's just poor etiquette.

No harm no foul. Lets call this a mullegen
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Old 12-07-2004, 12:17 AM   #54
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I for one want to point out that I am one of the those "white guys" and I love Kulotsalot... errrr. Asian chics."


LOL thanks much :jill: i thought nobody knew i existed
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Old 12-07-2004, 06:26 PM   #55
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All comments and observations very valid and understandable. I would hope people keep in mind the only people deserving of calling this land (country) theirs, are the native peoples. Just because indviduals choose to speak another language in public does not necassarially mean they don't speak English. English is not an easy language to learn.... remember learning English in school???? yuk. lol
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Old 12-08-2004, 12:35 AM   #56
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Native Americans weren't the first here dude....Moffucking Vikings were!
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Old 12-08-2004, 01:12 AM   #57
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Native Americans were here thousands of years before Leif Erikson or any other vikings. If you're gonna live in the country, atleast know something about it!
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Old 12-08-2004, 09:50 PM   #58
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Re: Are you American?

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Native Americans weren't the first here dude....Moffucking Vikings were!


Vikings were just the first to make the trip here by boat, before christopher colombus. Native Americans never left this motherfucker.
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