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Old 10-28-2004, 05:48 PM   #46
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Re: Get out of Iraq

I wish my country would bring our troops home, i cannot believe that our stupid Prime Minister has actually sent our Black Watch into Bagdad, just to help his old mate Mr Bush in the elections, but the problem is that you cannot just leave the place to its own devices, you have started this so you must finish it, Sadam had very good control of his borders and so kept all of these idiots out who want to rule the country with terror ect...(very loose terms there) and now you have no control what so ever and there are more soldiers getting killed when the war has ended!!! what do you do?? the problem was, that we shouldnt be there in the first place, they blame it on intelligence (what intelligence) we the normal everyday people knew we shouldnt go there but of course the people up high ignore you as they think they know waht you want. Now the country is in a worst state than before all because Bush wanted to better daddy and blair wanted to be god for a day. i feel sorry for the ordinary people of Iraq who just wants to get on woth there lives like the rest of us
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Old 10-28-2004, 07:57 PM   #47
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... Sadam had very good control of his borders and so kept all of these idiots out who want to rule the country with terror ect...(very loose terms there) and now you have no control what so ever and there are more soldiers getting killed when the war has ended!!!


Good point. Not all the insurgents are Iraqi's who are trying to fight off the US or still support Saddam. Many of them are terrorists who have found the floodgates open and can generally come and go as they please
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Old 10-30-2004, 11:28 PM   #48
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Enough of our guys have died, those fuckin assholes are chopping off the heads of guys trying to rebuild the city so fuck them and the rest of the middle east ,they dont want our help.

EXACTLY they dont want your help they dont want democracy theyre happy as they are , they dont want to change your way of life they want you to leave them live as they want, when they do bombogs is to give you a taste of what theyre going thru.
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Old 10-30-2004, 11:51 PM   #49
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Uhm.... how to respond? Well, for starters.... we can't just up and leave at this point. We have bombed the shit out of that country, so we have to help rebuild it. As far as their bombings.... there is nothing that can justify ANYONE bombing anyone else. We bombed Iraq illegally. Nothing justified us bombing them, and sure as shit, nothing justifies the WTC.
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Old 11-02-2004, 01:26 PM   #50
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When the people here decide to quit bitchin and pick up a F___ing rifle and decide to serve their country instead being whores then you have the right to bitch. Ohh by the way I did seve my country in OIF OEF and Operation Nobel Eagle
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Old 11-02-2004, 02:40 PM   #51
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Golden, stfu. Being an American has nothing to do with "picking up a rifle". good for you for serving the country. That doesn't mean that you come to a forum, and voice your opinion with no validation behind it on your first post. You don't know who did and did not give themselves to the military. Some of us did.
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Old 11-02-2004, 06:31 PM   #52
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In my government class we have been discussing the fact if U.S. should ever have invaded Iraq. I have listened to many of my classmate's opinions and find it very humorous when most of them say "Yes, we should stay in Iraq because of 9/11". To this, I would reply "It wasn't the people of Iraq who commited the terrorist attack against U.S." Many of my classmaters would get offended and start stating how Iraq is terrorist and we should bomb them. Then I tell them "We have just as many, if not more, terrorists living in the U.S. as Iraq, should we find out where they live and go bomb those cities as well killing many innocent victems?" After this comment, many realize how ignorant they are and don't reply to this, some reply by saying "I hope we kill all of the Iraqis". Then I ask them, will you ever join the army and go fight in Iraq, to which I get alot of replys of "No way, I don't wanna die." That's when I just give them the 'You are a dumbfuck' stare and never speak with them again. This post is to all of you people who still think Americans should be in Iraq risking their lives for no good reason, while you sit there at the t.v. barely hearing about the ones who lose their lives everyday in Iraq.


You sir, are the dumbfuck. You'd get laughed out of any class saying such ignorant things as what you've said here. Get an education before you try to talk down to people about their opinions.
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Old 11-02-2004, 06:37 PM   #53
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You gonna support your claim? Or just call names?
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Old 11-02-2004, 09:09 PM   #54
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Justin covered it rather nicely. I don't think it needs to be repeated.
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Old 11-02-2004, 09:19 PM   #55
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We saw what Jusin had to say, and that was a rather long time ago. why don't you tell us what YOU have to say, since you decided that you were going to bring something up in this post?
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Old 11-02-2004, 09:42 PM   #56
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OK Mr. Jimi. Here goes.


"In my government class we have been discussing the fact if U.S. should ever have invaded Iraq."

-Should say "whether" instead of "the fact if." Also "ever" shouldn't be used here.

"It wasn't the people of Iraq who commited the terrorist attack against U.S."

-No it probably wasn't. But Iraq HAS and DID support terrorists in the past.

"Many of my classmaters would get offended and start stating how Iraq is terrorist and we should bomb them."

-Iraq is terrorist? How can a country be "terrorist?"

Then I tell them "We have just as many, if not more, terrorists living in the U.S. as Iraq, should we find out where they live and go bomb those cities as well killing many innocent victems?"

-Huh? That's why there are so many suicide bombings here right?

"After this comment, many realize how ignorant they are and don't reply to this"

-I think your statement before this showed YOUR ignorance, not the people's that you are supposedly talking to.

"some reply by saying 'I hope we kill all of the Iraqis'"

-That sounds like BS. Anyone who knows world events could pick your argument apart.

Then I ask them, will you ever join the army and go fight in Iraq, to which I get alot of replys of "No way, I don't wanna die."

-Once again. Sounds like a junior high student's grammar, and I honestly doubt that ANYONE has ever said that to you.

"That's when I just give them the 'You are a dumbfuck' stare and never speak with them again. This post is to all of you people who still think Americans should be in Iraq risking their lives for no good reason, while you sit there at the t.v. barely hearing about the ones who lose their lives everyday in Iraq."

-By saying that these Americans are risking their lives for no good reason you are not only being extremely prejudiced (saying that Americans shouldn't risk their lives for people in other countries because our lives are worth more than their's) you are also trivializing the sacrifice that they make. From what I've heard the majority of American soldiers support the war in Iraq.

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Old 11-02-2004, 10:12 PM   #57
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I doubt that every member of Al queda was directly involved in the attacks, yet the US government is going after all of them. Its called guilt by association. And the rest of the post is just political spin, giving ingorant americans their lil justification for attacking a county the size of a peanut.


i wasnt going to comment at all in this thread until i saw this comment.

im hoping im readin this wrong...but it sounds alot like youre sayin theres something wrong with our government going after all members of Al queda (one of the largest terrorist organizations in the world)...

i dont care if none of em were involved with the attacks, a terrorist organization is not a good thing....i dont think our government should ever have to justify the reasons for the war on terror

...i apologize to whoevers thread this was for not commenting directly on the subject at hand....that statement just really pissed me off
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:21 PM   #58
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"It wasn't the people of Iraq who commited the terrorist attack against U.S."

-No it probably wasn't. But Iraq HAS and DID support terrorists in the past.

No proof whatsoever. There is speculation by Bush advocates, but that's about it.

Sillyrabbit, bpboyz brought a lot to this thread, and I think that statement was mis-stated. check out the Islam thread, and other threads he has posted in.
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