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Old 09-08-2004, 11:38 PM   #16
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Re: Fox News - Fair and Balanced?

Hey man you have nothing to apologize for. The Edge would be pretty damn boring without you keeping the dialogue going in all of these threads. Keep chugging my friend.
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Old 09-08-2004, 11:57 PM   #17
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Re: Fox News - Fair and Balanced?

You know that I haven't agreed with some of the stuff you've said in here Nibiru, but for what it's worth...it would be rather boring without you here. You seem to balance out the conservatives (like me) to make for some rather strong debates. Thank you.
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Old 09-09-2004, 11:56 AM   #18
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Re: Fox News - Fair and Balanced?

Fox is home to the "broad-based republican conspiracy" that Clinton always complained about. Anything run by the Rupert Murdoch conglomeration falls into that category. Sean Hannity is an idiot. Bill O'Reilly is a compulsive liar, loudmouth, and bully. Colmes is a nothing. I watch and enjoy their news, but their commentary is ridiculous. They are about as far from unbiased as you can get.
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Old 09-09-2004, 01:16 PM   #19
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Re: Fox News - Fair and Balanced?

The problem is, they shouldn't claim to be "fair and balanced". Yes, all media is biased one way or another. Is anyone else making the above claim? Fox should be sneaky like the rest of them.
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Old 09-09-2004, 01:33 PM   #20
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Re: Fox News - Fair and Balanced?

The consensus seems to be that they (along with all media outlets) slant one way. The thing is that you do not see Republicans raising hell and protesting on the lawns of CNN or ABC News like those morons were at Fox in NYC over the convention. I can't turn on the TV anymore without some douchebag (Al Franken) crying about how Fox News is evil. I guess that just speaks to the comlaining and whining nature of liberals.
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Old 09-09-2004, 01:36 PM   #21
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So, speaking your mind = whining these days? That's one thing about Republicans. It seems that any points made in disagreeance with them turns into whining in their opinion.
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Old 09-09-2004, 02:46 PM   #22
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Re: Fox News - Fair and Balanced?

I think who posted that meant whining by the fact that generally, Fox News (and those who appriciate it) don't bash CNN and other obviously left news outlets, whereas leftists tend to bash Fox and it's correnspondents all the time.

I watched CNN one time and they told such an outright lie (confirmed by multiple sources, to include my Dad who had talked to some people) that I've never turned it on again. It was something during the war, and no, I don't remember the topic because that was a while ago.

I love O'Rielly. I don't always agree with him, but he's sharp and funny as hell. He can be a bit of a bully and if he cut me off, like he tends to do, I would raise hell. But than again, he bullies people for that too, so go figure. For the most part though, I either agree or see his point of view. That, coming from a right leaning republican.

Hannity and Colmes, don't watch. They can be extreme and I hate Greta Van Sustern or whatever her name is.
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Old 09-09-2004, 03:01 PM   #23
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You don't remember the lie that keeps you from watching CNN, BUT, it was important enough to stop you from watching it? How odd. And, thos who support Fox DO bash other sources. As far as your "...to include my dad who had talked to some people...", that's not exactly a valid argument, since your dad isn't a credited source.
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Old 09-11-2004, 11:03 PM   #24
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You idoits are all confused!
Fox News is fair and balanced which when compared the the extreme liberal bias of all the other channes seems rigt-wing. Its like a football team who for years only wins 3 games per season and then they suddenly one season win 7. It would seem like a good season compared to the other seasons but on the whole it is just an average season. (sorry for the football analygy...Ive been playing ESPN NFL 2K5 for the last week)
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Old 09-12-2004, 02:50 AM   #25
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who owns fox? that should tell you alot about how fair and balanced it is, do some research. (hint: dual loyalty)
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Old 09-13-2004, 02:37 AM   #26
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Re: Fox News - Fair and Balanced?

Murdoch owns Fox News. Which means Fox News is conservative. Just like Zell from GA is NOT a liberal! He's from Georgia for cryin out loud!
Hannity says about twice as much stuff during every show in order to get his message across. How is this possible? Hannity chose Colmes to be his partner since he is a pushover.
O'Reily is a blatant bully that cannot get his facts straight. First of all Clinton was never offered Osama Bin Laden by the Sudan government. That is fact and yet EVERY show brings up the fact that Clinton blew his opportunity. Second, there was never any damage to the White House when Clinton left. Two agencies have proved that and yet Fox News mentions it so many times to discredit his Presidency. In fact, there was a plan of action on the table ready to get Osama as Clinton was leaving office that got put on the backburner when George entered office. Maybe if he wasn't on vacation so often he could have gone forward on some of those actions.
Fox News was the first to give Clinton shit about Monica, and yet when Bush gets in trouble with lying they claim that we should respect the Presidency and not belittle his time. Hypocracy at it's finest.
Oh... Fox News is not in the middle and all others are to the left. They just tell you so many times that they are in the middle and others are to the left that most simple minded people start to believe it. I mean you can only hear something so many times before you believe it... right?
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Old 09-13-2004, 07:34 AM   #27
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So it's not in the middle, I can see that from articles I've read from them. Since the other stations (except the new NRA online one) are to the left...is it really that bad that they are more to the right? Wouldn't it be good to have something to offer a conservative opinion to help balance out the liberal stations?
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Old 09-13-2004, 10:03 AM   #28
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First of all Clinton was never offered Osama Bin Laden by the Sudan government. That is fact and yet EVERY show brings up the fact that Clinton blew his opportunity.


Then why did Clinton say they offered him?

I'm sure you've heard the taped interview.
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Old 09-13-2004, 11:58 AM   #29
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Murdoch owns Fox News. Which means Fox News is conservative. Just like Zell from GA is NOT a liberal! He's from Georgia for cryin out loud!
Hannity says about twice as much stuff during every show in order to get his message across. How is this possible? Hannity chose Colmes to be his partner since he is a pushover.
O'Reily is a blatant bully that cannot get his facts straight. First of all Clinton was never offered Osama Bin Laden by the Sudan government. That is fact and yet EVERY show brings up the fact that Clinton blew his opportunity. Second, there was never any damage to the White House when Clinton left. Two agencies have proved that and yet Fox News mentions it so many times to discredit his Presidency. In fact, there was a plan of action on the table ready to get Osama as Clinton was leaving office that got put on the backburner when George entered office. Maybe if he wasn't on vacation so often he could have gone forward on some of those actions.
Fox News was the first to give Clinton shit about Monica, and yet when Bush gets in trouble with lying they claim that we should respect the Presidency and not belittle his time. Hypocracy at it's finest.
Oh... Fox News is not in the middle and all others are to the left. They just tell you so many times that they are in the middle and others are to the left that most simple minded people start to believe it. I mean you can only hear something so many times before you believe it... right?


Totally agree...it also bothers me that Fox News mentions all the time about how Clinton did nothing about Iraq and how George Bush And George W. Bush took action, but fail to mention that the Regan administration is the one who armed him in the first place. Fox News presents only the facts relevant to their argument...that is the difference between these left stations you mention and Fox News. No matter how liberal you may consider CNN or MSNBC they still present all the facts of the matter at hand...this is the main reason I can not just watch Fox News if I or anyone wants to get all the information involved in a certain matter.
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Old 09-13-2004, 06:10 PM   #30
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Re: Fox News - Fair and Balanced?

Other corporations aren't FAR to the Left. It's just that Fox is so far to the right that the others look far-left-of-center. They may not be dead-on-center, but they're certainly not completely liberal. That's what I like about C-Span, there's really only personal interpretation. Fox helps instill terroristic fear in the American people. I don't know if anyone reads the comics in the Sunday paper, but the strip Doonesbury made some good points about the color coding system. Green means that the voters are looking good for Bush, and red means that the Bush Admin needs to start talking about terrorism to convince people that Bush is the messiah of anti-terrorism. Fox is the same way. Bush is such a geat warrior, he is great for our country because of his stance against terrorism. Bush has never been in a war. He was not in the real military. He doesn't know the last thing about terroristic threat. So, why is it that that is the only thing that Fox really focuses on? Because there is nothing else of great value to focus on that can win an election for such a "mastermind".

People also tend to forget that Clinton DID take charge when necessary. He initiated bombing on an Al Queda training base and close tactical sites. When there is a war on terrorism, the "tactical bombing" should be just that, tactical. Not the bombing of an entire city killing hundreds, maybe thousands of civilians and just claiming that the bombing is "tactical".
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