elfoozo

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I feel this new law will affect me in a negative manner. I work in the IT field where systems can go down at unscheduled intervals. Much like the skilled trades industry... or even the medical world. People in these professions are stuck with it being up to them to put in the long haul hours to get work done no matter what it takes, "or else!". Now, don't get me wrong, I like what I do as much as the next employee. But at the same time, I don't like what I do enough to do it for freebie after 40 hours. Or to calculate my base wage at 60 hours which will effectively reduce my hourly wage significantly.

So my question for the forum: Am I justified in feeling like the Bush Administration let America down by passing this law that appears to take the work force backwards instead of forwards?

HIJACKER

I'm still not clearly understanding exactly what it says.

When I read it, I look at it as your only going to get time and a half for 40+ hours if you make less than $455/week. If you amke more than that, then your exempt from overtime pay.. is that right??

No matter how I look at it, this will impact me. Considering I do Infrastructure Project Management (IT Field), my hours vary, depending on project needs, client needs, and emergency situations and major deadlines..

This sucks.

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michaeljohn

There was a law in California a few years back that let employers avoid paying you OT as long as you kept under 40 hours per week. So, a 10 hour workday could happen. You might get an unannounced early dismissal on Friday to avoid those extra OT hours as well. It was designed to give employers greater felxibility in scheduling workshifts. It was repealed.

Salaried employees usually do tons of OT, it is just part of the privelage of having a set weekly or monthly income.

At least we have OT pay and many other perks. Think of the long hours Americans pulled laboring 100 years ago.

Also, in sub-Saharan Africa, over 100 million people work for 12 hours or more for under $1.00 per day. Husbands do this every day and go home to a wife and 5-8 children.

If this new law affects your livelyhood, organize a mass sick-out/strike. If you aren't Federal employees like Air traffic controllers, the government cannot fire you.

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Dawlface

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This law is bullshit regardless of what Americans did 100 years ago. Why should some people get overtime, but others are not eligible? Who is to say who deserves overtime and who doesnt? Salaried workers get raped constantly. They are always working their asses off and never truly get compensated. With this law, more and more people are going to be getting raped. Its just one more way the governmet gets to control our lives and make us work without the proper compensation. Why dont we make a law about how much politicians get paid next? I would be willing to vote for that...

michaeljohn

Read the thread in this forum:

Do you pay taxes? If yes, read this
http://forums.webrats.com/showthread.php?t=16234

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kgilly

I agree with you totally man. The bush administration does not care about overtime pay because one was a vp of halliburton (howver you frieken spell it i'm tired) and the other owns crap loads of oil. They do not work for overtime. Bush is sitting back right now enjoying that pay raise clinton put into effect from 250,000 a year to 400,000 a year. How about for each month of vacatino you take off during your presidency we take out 25% of your pay? I'd vote for that! Also...who cares what people made 100 years ago...that's why things are suppose to change for the better and why we don't work like that anymore. And yes people in third world countries work for cents and hour or a dollar a day, not to say this is justified, but the value of money is completely differnt in thso countries. That is not a valid argument at all for this new law. hey guys remember 100 yeas ago...we're gonna start going back to that! Screw that!

Jimi

Not only is the currency value different in these 3rd world countries.... but we are NOT a 3rd world country, so how can our moneys be compared to theirs? This country isn't made for the employer, it's made for the employee. 100 years ago, children worked hard labor in factories. Are we going to go back to that? Hell, with the outsourcing, we are probably already going back to that.

Justin

From what I understand this gives the employer and the employee a choice.

The employee can take their "overtime" and get paid for it or they can apply it to comp time (paid days off).

But the employee has to agree to which one.

bradmac

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Bush is a moron for passing that..


Oh well. Just hope your bosses will pay you under the table. =P

Justin

Theres 16. Only 9 more dumbass posts to go till free porn!!!

elfoozo

He made it to 26. Now he'll shut up.

tricks

Overtime isn't about money. It's to keep employers from exploiting workers with long work weeks. If you want the workers to work longer, it'll cost you.
As stated above, salaried workers end up working more hours because it costs the employer nothing extra. So, by restricting those elegible to recieve overtime, employers don't save money as much as they get more hours out of their workers. Also, if you don't like it aqnd quit, no raise. It will keep salary levels down due to turnover and entry-level pay.
As it is, I've never worked for a salary. I would assume that a salary implied a certain number of hours to be worked for the money promised. I guess not.

HIJACKER

ok, maybe I'm a dumbass, and maybe I'm not.. but.. I've read this about 10 times now...

Are you FOR it or AGAINST it??

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Indigenous

Did you somehow think that the gov't still works towards the good of the people and not for profiteering corporations?