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Old 07-05-2008, 01:47 AM   #1
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Old 07-05-2008, 04:02 AM   #2
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Re: Supreme Court ruled on Death Penalty

Sounds good, could be worse!

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Originally Posted by Exection of William Wallace
Wallace was tried in Westminster Hall (which today is part of the Palace of Westminster at the House of Commons entrance and close to the eastern end of the Abbey).

His sentence was read out immediately following the verdict, and included the full details of the punishment usually known as "hanging, drawing and quartering" that Edward Longshanks had introduced as the appropriate penalty for treason. He was then chained prostrate on a hurdle (just a piece of fencing, not a wheeled vehicle as in the film) and drawn by two horses through the filthy streets for the public to mock and stone (this being Edward's subtle idea of combining education with entertainment).

He was drawn first to the Tower, about two and a half miles, and then on to Smithfield via Aldgate, another mile. He was hanged, but cut down while still alive. He was not racked as shown in the film, nor was he allowed a chance to submit to Edward's peace and thereby cut short his suffering (a procedure the screenwriter may have borrowed from the Inquisition).

While held upright by the hangman's rope, he had his privy parts cut away (all of them, and hence emasculation, not castration) and burned in the brazier in front of him. Then, still upright, his stomach was slit open so that he could be ritually disembowelled. His entrails were burnt on the brazier.

The hangman then cut open his chest to pull out his heart. It was considered a manifestation of the hangman's skill that this should still be beating while held in the hangman's hands, but whether he was successful on this occasion is not recorded. It was supposed to be traditional that the hangman should at this point call attention to his achievement by announcing "Behold the heart of a traitor" (in case any in the audience had missed the object of the exercise), but I have never found this stated explicitly in any court record.

The final act was decapitation and quartering. You will note that in effect there are three symbolic deaths here: hanging, evisceration, decapitation. Edward is said to have decreed that treason was a triple crime: against God, against man, and against the King. Hence the triple death sentence.

http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-01/wallace3.html
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:59 PM   #3
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Re: Supreme Court ruled on Death Penalty

I've been a supporter of the death penalty for quite some time; however, the number of death penalty cases overturned through DNA testing causes me concern. One day, I hope there is an effort to review all previous death sentence cases using any and all DNA relevent to the case.
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Old 07-05-2008, 11:36 PM   #4
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Re: Supreme Court ruled on Death Penalty

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I've been a supporter of the death penalty for quite some time; however, the number of death penalty cases overturned through DNA testing causes me concern. One day, I hope there is an effort to review all previous death sentence cases using any and all DNA relevent to the case.

No one in law enforcement wants to do that because the odds are good that at least one person has probably been executed for a crime he didn't commit. Hell, it's difficult to get them to release people who've been wrongly convicted as it is. If we were to discover that an innocent person had been executed, we'd have to rethink the whole system. Like my grandmother used to say: can't do that, it would be too much like right!!!
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