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07-01-2008, 10:27 PM

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WTF... Is this real? Could it pass?

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http://laist.com/2008/06/30/califor...d_for_eve_1.php

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There is an initiative in the works that could end up on the November ballot that allows for marijuana to be sold to anyone, and anywhere that already sells alcohol. Its being called The Inalienable Rights Enforcement Initiative.

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Marijuana Legalization. Individual Rights. Constitutional Amendment. Summary Date: 04/08/08 Circulation Deadline: 09/05/08 Signatures Required: 694,354 Proponent: Christopher Springer Amends constitution to legalize marijuana and hemp within California and to provide for broad individual constitutional rights, including rights to food, shelter, medical care, and to be free from “unreasonable” taxation. Allows marijuana to be sold in any store that sells alcohol. Establishes local boards with expansive powers, including powers to regulate and tax marijuana. Requires marijuana tax revenues support specified programs. Exempts marijuana sales profits from income tax. Forbids most testing for marijuana used outside the workplace. Prohibits most marijuana, alcohol, and tobacco advertisements. Immunizes marijuana growers and sellers from liability. Summary of estimate by Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local government: Potential savings of up to several tens of millions of dollars annually to state and local governments, which would no longer incur the costs of incarcerating and supervising certain marijuana offenders. Potential costs of up to the tens of millions of dollars to state and local governments to fund the one-time start-up costs of the local boards. A potentially significant increase in state and local spending on substance abuse treatment services that could possibly be partially or fully offset by revenues from this measure. Potential increased revenues in the tens of millions to low hundreds of millions of dollars annually from marijuana stamps and licenses to support specified programs and the local boards. Unknown but potentially significant increase in state and local revenues from collection of sales and use taxes on the sale of Marijuana. Unknown but potentially significant decrease in state and local revenues from taxes on tobacco and alcohol due to a prohibition of advertising for these goods that would likely result in a decline in sales. (Initiative 08-0009.)

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It would be pretty awesome and a step in the right direction if it makes it. Maybe other states will step up and follow.

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07-01-2008, 10:38 PM	#2
fmb bitch Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SC Posts: 2,004/3.15 Threads: 54 Friends Network	Re: WTF... Is this real? Could it pass? Hell, it should be legalized; the product could be taxed, just like alcohol. We spend billions trying to locate, eradicate, and incarcerate (sounds like a Jesse Jackson sentence) the plant. It's time our country looks at this issue with some sense.

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07-01-2008, 10:51 PM	#3
FattyJJ ? Join Date: May 2005 Location: Georgia Posts: 793/0.63 Threads: 29 Friends Network Gold Member	Re: WTF... Is this real? Could it pass? It will still be illegal under the fed law, so I'm sure it will not actually happen, or last long. Also, most politicians see that word marijuana, and have a automatic switch in their head that says no, not ever. Its nice to have a few supporters in thier ranks, it shows we can have some faith in a few of them. I would be headed to cali in a second though.
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07-01-2008, 10:53 PM	#4
fmb bitch Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SC Posts: 2,004/3.15 Threads: 54 Friends Network	Re: WTF... Is this real? Could it pass? I've never, ever tried the stuff. FattyJJ, if it passes, I'm buying!

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07-02-2008, 10:23 AM	#5
joerockhead Erica Ownz me! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 5280' Posts: 7,792/5.62 Threads: 315 Friends Network Gold Member	Re: WTF... Is this real? Could it pass? What? Sell and TAX? More Revenue for the Corrupt Politicians to mis spend? It will never happen.
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07-02-2008, 11:53 AM	#6
Anibal Surfin Irie Champion! Champion! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Teahupoo Posts: 3,696/3.52 Threads: 169 Friends Network	Re: WTF... Is this real? Could it pass? Meh you can get weed real easy as it is anywhere you go, im not worried if they ever do legalize it.

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07-02-2008, 01:20 PM

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Meh you can get weed real easy as it is anywhere you go, im not worried if they ever do legalize it.

Just fly Air Jamaica and check out the catering cart.

Really, if you consider the cost to regulate importation and production, packaging, and licensing sales and taxation like alcohol and tobacco, you'll end up paying 3 to 5 times what you pay now. Then you got to consider the war that will break out with the drug lords trying to knock off the American farmers that want to profit from the new legal cash crop.

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Drugs Found Hidden On Commercial Flight To Philly
PHILADELPHIA (CBS 3) ― Authorities are trying to determine how a large quantity of marijuana and cocaine ended up on a flight from Jamaica that arrived in Philadelphia over the weekend.

Police said just over nine pounds of cocaine and marijuana were found in eight packages hidden on board an Air Jamaica flight from Montego Bay that arrived in Philadelphia at about 9:30 p.m. Sunday.

Crew members on board notified authorities after discovering the packages stowed in the drawer of a catering cart.

Authorities said the drugs, worth approximately $44,000, will be destroyed.

No arrests have been made.

http://cbs3.com/topstories/air.jama...e.2.761929.html

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07-02-2008, 01:30 PM	#8
Draggon I Had a Mullet Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: On Top of the World Posts: 5,610/5.19 Threads: 144 Friends Network Gold Member	Re: WTF... Is this real? Could it pass? It has already been decriminalized here. You can have up to a certain amount on you and you're all good here. It's when you have enough on you they can book you for intent to distribute. Seriously though. It's BC Bud. I don't know anyone that grew up here that hasn't done it more then once.
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07-02-2008, 05:58 PM	#9
zpr Original Hippie Killer Champion! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Portland, Or Posts: 405/1.51 Threads: 57 Friends Network	Re: WTF... Is this real? Could it pass? Maybe you can get it easily, but that doesn't make it legal. My point is that you wouldn't be penalized if you pissed hot. Your boss couldn't fire you for it and it couldn't be used in the hiring process.

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07-02-2008, 06:40 PM	#10
Draggon I Had a Mullet Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: On Top of the World Posts: 5,610/5.19 Threads: 144 Friends Network Gold Member	Re: WTF... Is this real? Could it pass? Unless the company policy is no pot. Then he can have you tested before hiring or fire you for testing for it. Law just means record, jail and/or fine.
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07-02-2008, 07:04 PM

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Unless the company policy is no pot. Then he can have you tested before hiring or fire you for testing for it.
Law just means record, jail and/or fine.

Yeah, same thing with TB tests, reord checks, polygraphs or being bondable. I had a friend that got fired from a job after 2 weeks because the bonding company wouldn't cover him even though the company hiring him knew what was on his record and said it would be no problem.
Here in PA it's a will to work state so you don't have a right to a job. Unless you can prove discrimination, the companies can do what they want.

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07-02-2008, 07:17 PM	#12
joerockhead Erica Ownz me! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 5280' Posts: 7,792/5.62 Threads: 315 Friends Network Gold Member	Re: WTF... Is this real? Could it pass? No matter what, where I work, it is not allowed.
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07-02-2008, 11:09 PM

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Maybe you can get it easily, but that doesn't make it legal. My point is that you wouldn't be penalized if you pissed hot. Your boss couldn't fire you for it and it couldn't be used in the hiring process.

Dude im a pot head and i see the bigger picture here, lets say it is legalized... that doesnt mean your boss will be completely fine with you going to work stoned it would be like going to work drunk. My point here is that even if gets legalized it wont be the utopia most people thing it will be.

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07-02-2008, 11:32 PM	#14
zpr Original Hippie Killer Champion! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Portland, Or Posts: 405/1.51 Threads: 57 Friends Network	Re: WTF... Is this real? Could it pass? I'll use my company as an example. If somebody gets in an accident or gets hurt, they have to be drug tested before returning to work. Because pot is illegal, they can, and do use a positive as grounds for termination. If it were not illegal, the legal grounds would not be there. You can say that a company would still be able to use it against employees, but if that were the case, there would be many companies that ban alcohol use. Many have tried, but most have failed. There are groups like the ACLU (as much as I hate them) that would fight it to the top to allow us the right to do what we want on our off time. Of course they would still be able to fire you based on coming to work stoned, just the same as being drunk. I'm not saying that pot being legal in California would change the world overnight, but I still think it's a step in the right direction. It really doesn't matter to much to me since I've smoked twice in the last 13 years and decided that I don't like it anymore. I just think that if one state takes the first step, others will follow and eventually it will lead to a federal change. Once the effort is no longer wasted on fighting a naturally growing plant, it can be wasted on more important things.

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07-02-2008, 11:40 PM	#15
fmb bitch Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SC Posts: 2,004/3.15 Threads: 54 Friends Network	Re: WTF... Is this real? Could it pass? Cali may change things, but it will take time. I remember seeing posters from the 1920's telling about how "marijuana is a narcotic.." Why can't our country get real??

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