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Old 04-24-2005, 11:39 PM   #16
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Re: am i out of line?

Stick as close to your dad as you can and have your mom move out. She fucked up, not your father. For whatever reason your dad can't provide something for her, but she can get a divorce for that instead of using him and then filling her void on the side.

Take care of your younger siblings...a lot. Don't abandon your pops tho.
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Old 04-25-2005, 03:32 PM   #17
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Re: am i out of line?

but it isnt my choice who moves out, or who we go with... last time he moved out, they just said... ur dad is going to move out, and u guys are going to stay here... it wasnt like we had the option... but, my mom knows that we would all leave her and go with my dad if they did get divorced, she was upset about that, but hey... if u dont wanna know, dont ask...

i would never abandon my dad or my brothers, but i wouldnt think twice about leaving my mom... i hate to say that, because she is my mother, but i dont respect her at all... its just the truth...
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Old 04-25-2005, 03:39 PM   #18
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Re: am i out of line?

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but it isnt my choice who moves out, or who we go with... last time he moved out, they just said... ur dad is going to move out, and u guys are going to stay here... it wasnt like we had the option... but, my mom knows that we would all leave her and go with my dad if they did get divorced, she was upset about that, but hey... if u dont wanna know, dont ask...

i would never abandon my dad or my brothers, but i wouldnt think twice about leaving my mom... i hate to say that, because she is my mother, but i dont respect her at all... its just the truth...

You are plenty old, and provide for yourself and (from what I remember) help out around your house financialy and stuff. IMHO, you have as much right to say who stays in your home as anyone else. The decision for them to split up is up to them. The fact that your mother had done this before, your dad took her back, and now she is doing it again should award your dad the right to stay at home and make her move; any court would rule his favor. If they get divorced, she isn't entitled to alimony or anything else, unless she can prove your dad drove her to the arms of another because of abuse.

Make sure you get a say in it and talk everything else out with your family. Your mother deserves the same treatment a cheating man would get. If your dad would rather have you stay with her is something I don't really understand, but hey, he must have his motives...find out what they are.
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Old 04-25-2005, 03:49 PM   #19
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Re: am i out of line?

i get what you are saying, but i would prefer to leave their problems up to them to decide... and knowing my dad, he would move out and leave her the house, and still give her money so she could afford to stay... even in despite all that she has done to him... grrr... it upsets me to know how much of his life he has wasted on her, when he could be so much happier elsewhere...
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Old 04-25-2005, 04:34 PM   #20
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Re: am i out of line?

He has his children if nothing else. I'm sure the pain his wife, your Mum has given him over the years has faded along with the love he once had for her.
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Old 04-25-2005, 04:56 PM   #21
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i get what you are saying, but i would prefer to leave their problems up to them to decide... and knowing my dad, he would move out and leave her the house, and still give her money so she could afford to stay... even in despite all that she has done to him... grrr... it upsets me to know how much of his life he has wasted on her, when he could be so much happier elsewhere...

BAH! Your father has a heart of gold! I wish him good luck, as well as you and your siblings. Your mother on the other hand...I wish whatever Jebus feels she deserves.
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Old 04-25-2005, 09:45 PM   #22
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Re: am i out of line?

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BAH! Your father has a heart of gold! I wish him good luck, as well as you and your siblings. Your mother on the other hand...I wish whatever Jebus feels she deserves.



+1.

Praise Jebus, it's a sticky situation, no doubt about that, but everyone else has pretty much summed up my opinions as well. Hang in there.
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Old 04-26-2005, 12:34 AM   #23
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Re: am i out of line?

well as almost every one has said, you should bring it up to your dad. even if he knows about it, he might just be hiding from it and trying to believe that she isn't cheating on him again. so if you tell him, maby not infront of your mom, but you still should, then he wont have a choice but to do something about it.

and in my opinion you are completly right in calling your mom a whore. she is, plain and simple. but again, name calling doesn't really solve any thing. you should also confront your mom about it. tell her how much it is hurting you and all the rest of your siblings. if she still does it, then you know that she shouldn't be part of your life and you shouldn't even give her the time of day.

well there is my 2 cents.... prolly been said over and over again, but its all true... we are all here for you sonrisa.
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Old 04-30-2005, 03:58 AM   #24
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Re: am i out of line?

well to update you guys... my brother and i decided to talk to my dad, and tell him about everything thats been going on ( i needed my brother there for moral support, or i would have chickened out) well his response was... im not going to do anything about it... let her make her own decisions, but she needs to realize that she is going to have to live with the consequences of her actions for the rest of her life....

now what exactly is this supposed to mean? does this mean he isnt going to do anything? and if he doesnt do anything then how is she going to have to deal with the consequesces? i dont get what he meant by this... but i didnt feel it was appropriate to push him further for answers that he didnt want to give to us....
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Old 04-30-2005, 10:19 AM   #25
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Re: am i out of line?

Well if your dad is the religious kind he might mean that he doesn't have to do anything, someone else (i.e. God or whomever) will judge her for her actions. Or maybe he means that he won't try to control your mother's actions directly (i.e. make her stay at home) but take steps to ensure that he is vindicated (i.e. move somewhere else, limit/inhibit access to the kids, go to court, etc)

Don't really know, and some people think fast and act fast, some people take their time in decision-making, maybe your Dad wants to think things through carefully. It's not just between him and your mother, you kids are obviously in the middle of the scuffle, so maybe he's thinking of a course of action that's least harmless to you guys?
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Old 04-30-2005, 10:20 AM   #26
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Re: am i out of line?

Sorry I meant least harmful, not least harmless. For some reason I can't edit my posts unless they're in the hotness.
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Old 05-02-2005, 02:46 PM   #27
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Re: am i out of line?

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well to update you guys... my brother and i decided to talk to my dad, and tell him about everything thats been going on ( i needed my brother there for moral support, or i would have chickened out) well his response was... im not going to do anything about it... let her make her own decisions, but she needs to realize that she is going to have to live with the consequences of her actions for the rest of her life....

now what exactly is this supposed to mean? does this mean he isnt going to do anything? and if he doesnt do anything then how is she going to have to deal with the consequesces? i dont get what he meant by this... but i didnt feel it was appropriate to push him further for answers that he didnt want to give to us....

Political answer meaning she will deal with it when karma catches up to her. You guys (children( will resent her, God will judge her, your old man will be cold, distant, and unsuportive of anything she does.

Your old man lacks a back bone, I know it sounds harsh, but its the truth. I figure if you are serious about moving out, you should do so.
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