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Old 02-28-2005, 03:46 PM   #16
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Re: Why Does the US support Pakistan instead of India

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.. I just heard a story on NPR the other week about online torturing for American children that is based from India. They, the Indian professors, actually take training on how to speak so the students can better understand them with their accents.


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Either this is the worst typo I have ever laid my eyes on or
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Hahahaha, LMFAO!

That was supposed to be “tutoring”, I guess that’s what happens when spell check thinks for you. Too funny. Thanks for catching my fuck up .. rep for you!

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Old 03-03-2005, 10:53 PM   #17
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Re: Why Does the US support Pakistan instead of India

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.......... And the US only cares about Iraq for oil, not the safety of our nation.
I could go into the ~50 year history on it, speak about the Shah of Iran and the Iranian hostage situation; but just trust me. We only there for the oil, and the US doesn't care who its buddy is for that right now.


Uh Yeah. So how much OIL do we get from the Middle East?
How much do we get from Russia?
From South America?
From Canada?
From Alaska?


Answer me that. Iraq is far more then Oil.

Put a democratic government in the middle of the middle east and it is easier for us to defend against terrorism. Yes, we may get some oil out of the deal, but if it was ONLY OIL, then why are we paying higher prices? We should be getting even BETTER prices then we are.
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Old 03-04-2005, 03:20 PM   #18
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Re: Why Does the US support Pakistan instead of India

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Also we helped put their corrupt government into power for our own use. The relationship between the CIA and ISI (Pakistan's Intelligence Service) is well documented and extensive. They are the fountainhead of all the shenanigans that go on over there and they are at the beck and call of our intelligence and military superstructure. Consider the ISI the monkey boys for our covert spooks. I mean the head of ISI was in Washington the first week of September 2001 meeting with, amongst other very powerful and hightly placed people, Porter Goss, the new head of the CIA. This after he (the head of ISI not Goss) having personally wired $100,000 to a certain Near-Easterner who was boozin, whoreing, and coking himself up in Florida after which he supposedly did a little flying.

They are an asset, plain and simple and they're helping to keep the cauldron boiling over there so we have an excuse to exert the empire a little farther.

Look, when those assholes tout "liberty, democracy, and freedom" you have to understand that their idea of "liberty, democracy, and freedom" is wildly different than the concept we've been lead to believe all our lives.

India is inconsequential in the bigger picture. Despite what's been noted about their heritage and culture, they're still pretty much a cheap labor, third-world nation to most of the unwashed, unread on this side of the pond. The last thing we want is any kind of real competition. Basically we dig subcontractors that we underpay and overwork. Hence, helping the team that's cheating on the game so the other side never wins.
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Old 03-05-2005, 11:29 AM   #19
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Re: Why Does the US support Pakistan instead of India

From another Business major, it is all about stability. You hear more in the press and from the whitewhores about Pakistan because of the work involved in keeping Pakistan stable. India, as previously mentioned, is a generally stable democratic country. Pakistan is ruled by a military dictator, General Musharif. The US worries about an unstable nuclear Pakistan more than it worries about what is happening in India. India can take care of itself internally, and doesn't show signs of pending anarchy, where Pakistans stability is held by a shoestring.
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Old 03-06-2005, 02:55 AM   #20
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Re: Why Does the US support Pakistan instead of India

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Uh Yeah. So how much OIL do we get from the Middle East?
How much do we get from Russia?
From South America?
From Canada?
From Alaska?


Answer me that. Iraq is far more then Oil.

Put a democratic government in the middle of the middle east and it is easier for us to defend against terrorism. Yes, we may get some oil out of the deal, but if it was ONLY OIL, then why are we paying higher prices? We should be getting even BETTER prices then we are.


Ever heard of that little thing called OPEC? trust me, don't get into the middle east on this topic with me. we had control of Iran for awhile and that went to shit. We soon run out of oil, and Iraq has the second largest supply left. Saudi Arabia is first, and Russia is unknown b/c it is hard to get oil out from the tundra in Siberia. And Alaska isn't that much. Environmentalists keep us from tapping that reserve hard.
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Old 03-06-2005, 10:42 PM   #21
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Ever heard of that little thing called OPEC? trust me, don't get into the middle east on this topic with me. we had control of Iran for awhile and that went to shit. We soon run out of oil, and Iraq has the second largest supply left. Saudi Arabia is first, and Russia is unknown b/c it is hard to get oil out from the tundra in Siberia. And Alaska isn't that much. Environmentalists keep us from tapping that reserve hard.



But you did not answer my question.

How much in a percentage do WE, the USA, get from the middle east?
What % doe we get from South America? Canada? Alaska?
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Old 03-07-2005, 02:48 AM   #22
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Re: Why Does the US support Pakistan instead of India

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...India is inconsequential in the bigger picture. Despite what's been noted about their heritage and culture, they're still pretty much a cheap labor, third-world nation to most of the unwashed, unread on this side of the pond. ...

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Old 12-02-2005, 04:37 AM   #23
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Old 12-04-2005, 12:43 AM   #24
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Re: Why Does the US support Pakistan instead of India

Simple. US gov payback to Pakistan for logistical assistance in invading Iraq in the first place, now for help in rounding up (and probably torturing) terrorists crossing from Iraq/Afghanistan. The Pakistani dictator is serving US military interests, hence US gov is supporting him. India doesn't border Iraq.

However plenty of US (and British) businesses are "supporting" India by outsourcing (more than to Pakistan, though they do get some) mainly because India's education system teaches excellent English: both US and British versions. India is also well ahead of Pakistan in high-tech industries such as IT. Look out, India is fast becoming a serious economic competitor to the USA (and Europe), it's well ahead of China, the news media hasn't noticed this yet...

Spreading democracy and freedom in Asia? Don't make me laugh! Pakistan is a military dictatorship in a mostly Muslim country, rather like Iraq was, except it really does have WMDs: working nukes! India is a long-established and genuine democracy in a mostly non-Muslim country. Don't see much US pressure on Pakistan to democratise, and absolutely no threat to de-nuke or be sanctioned or invaded.

Seems that foreign policy is just as short-term self-interested as it always has been, and just maybe that's why we are in this mess in the first place. I won't iterate a history lesson, you've seen it already in other threads...

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