WR - when does life begins? ....

11-29-2004, 06:16 PM	#16
tjlaxattack whore Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 142/0.09 Threads: 4 Friends Network	Re: when does life begins? .... Errr, I actually was being sarcastic about the abortion and cord-cutting agreement. But it came across the wrong way. I am pro-life, but not good at expressing sarcasm through typing i guess. Anyway, you said "if you believe in abortion and you think a baby's life starts at some point before birth, then you believe in killing human lives" I agree completely ...that this applies to those in favor of abortion. Just a quick question, somewhat off topic, what are people's feelings in here about being charged twice for murder if you kill a pregnant woman?

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11-29-2004, 06:18 PM	#17
Waldo your gf calls me daddy Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: your girlfriends house Posts: 9,413/4.48 Threads: 1300 Friends Network	Re: when does life begins? .... first breath pure and simple
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11-30-2004, 09:07 PM	#18
chakaone Guest Posts: n/a/0 Threads: Friends Network	Re: when does life begins? .... Life begins at conception and I am pro-choice. There are too many people in the world! There are millions of kids are orphaned worldwide, that never get adopted. Get over the abortion issue. It is better for a person to die as a fetus than live a hard life with no family. I am going to adopt when I am more financially stable.

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11-30-2004, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bergs

Why does it even matter? There is nothing wrong with killing another human. Even if you look into your Bible, it never says anything is wrong with it. It only says that murder is wrong.

Actually, the bible clearly states that killing innocent human life is wrong. I know of no unborn who deserve to be murdered.

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It's not murder, in my mind, if the abortion is carried out to save the mother.

Can you find even one single doctor who's performed an abortion, claiming it was necessary to save the life of the mother? I can't. Even the official records pretty much say ZERO!

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Of course, my reply still does not answer the question. However, for the sake of.... for the sake of whatever, I think that life starts the moment the brain is sufficiently formed to foster primitive thinking.

This really should be a self explanatory question & answer. What does the word "conceive" mean? If you've conceived a child, it's a life form. DUH! You conceived a life! Is it self sustainable, obviously not for several months, but it is living. Otherwise, it couldn't develop & grow on it's own. Babies who die in the womb, and generally are miscarried, were alive for a period of time. I'm sure most of you have heard of the terminology surrounding a still born or dying inside, prematurely. Get a frigging clue!

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11-30-2004, 10:31 PM	#20
Lorill whore Join Date: May 2004 Location: Midwest Posts: 430/0.27 Threads: 3 Friends Network	Re: when does life begins? .... Gotta love the "because the bible says so" argument.

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12-01-2004, 11:43 AM

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Ya! Shame on Bergs for bringing that,... that nasty bible up!

I have a couple questions though.
Ever have a car & look at the owners manual in the glove box? Sure helps. Ever look at the owners manual for your pc? Sure helps. Would you take your car to a repair shop that refused to look at factory service manuals? At least not twice. I think you get the idea. Leaving all the writings about "religion" & heaven & hell, being "saved" etc. completely out of it, consider the bible as an owners manual for humans. Nobody is forcing you to read it or follow it's suggestions for life. That would be slavery & we all have a free will.

However, please consider this. It's filled with medical information to keep you healthy & living a disease free, long life. If someone promised you that you would never be sick or suffer normal human ailments, wouldn't you at least want to know how? It doesn't mean you have to follow their advice. Most of the people recorded in Genesis lived to be several hundred years old. The richest people in the world have followed biblical principals, (whether they knew it or not). The largest most successful organization in the world (Christianity) was founded & grew, by following the book of acts. 3/4 of the bible is about money & how to use it wisely, yet students worldwide spend millions of dollars on economic classes.

The only man besides Jesus to walk on water did so by listing & obeying Jesus. The only two men in history to be dead for three days & then come back to life, completely whole & undamaged, followed biblical principals. That alone should warrant a bit of curiosity.

Everybody wants to stay young, look young & live forever. Most people want to get rich. As we all know, the average life span is now less that 80 years, but doesn't the promise of walking streets, where the pavement is gold & the walls are are precious jewels, eternally (as in FOREVER) at least make you wonder?

Great people (in life) act on wonderment & take risks. They are the people who aren't satisfied with the status quo & "Go for it". Then again, some people live uneventful lives & say "bah humbug" at every idea that's not their own. Reading a bible from a pure secular point of view, never hurt anybody, but rejecting knowledge has caused a lot of grief.

This is in no way intended to preach Jesus, church or getting "saved" at anyone, just to consider the other merits of reading an owners manual designed to make humans happy & successful. But then again, the season is approaching for saying "Bah Humbug", so why not get an early start?

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