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08-09-2003, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by irawish

It is well known by the experts who study it, that many women who suffer from BPD decide to have a baby, and often target famous men who are inappropriate and inaccessible for a long term relationship. Kate fits the profile of a BPD sufferer and went to Kobe's room with her own agenda. She seduced him and at some point prior to completion, he rejected her. She became enraged and quickly became psychotic, suffering paranoid delusions in which she saw herself being violated. She desparately needs to keep her parents love and has no sense of object constancy. Her variable sense of reality allows her to believe whatever she needs to believe in order to survive emotionally.

OK, I should have known better than to put that first sentence in there.

You are missing the purpose of my post.

I was countering the previous posters argument that Katie is a slut, with the "Kobe is just as big of a slut as her" arguement.

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08-09-2003, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shannon

Well Kobe doesn't possess any of the characteristics of a raper... he doesn't have any need to feel powerful or important... he can pretty much get any pussy he wants and much hotter tail than this katelyn girl... I can't see any reason why he would waste his time and risk his reputation to rape some stupid backwoods tramp!

I agree with you completely shannon. If this is indeed Katelyn's story then I am convinced now more than ever that she is full of shit. Very worse case scenario that could have possibly happened is she changed her mind during middle of sex and Kobe persuaded her to keep going perhaps a little too much persuading, but definitely not rape.

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08-09-2003, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by irawish

Hey Irawish,

On what basis are you so convinced she has BPD. All your posts relate to that. Do you know her other then what you've seen in the news and the gossip? Don't get me wrong, I think the whole story stinks to high hell, but I'm wondering where you're coming from?

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08-09-2003, 09:36 PM

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To answer that question, all you have to do is read my book. Take the time to do so. It is free. Then get back to me.

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08-09-2003, 11:16 PM

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Yet unprinted news headline

Scrubba and Kobe HIV POS.

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HIV awareness rises to new heights!

Might not be a bad scenerio, (well, except for lakers fans...)

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08-11-2003, 09:52 AM

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AND WHEN IS AND WHERE IS THIS INTERVIEW TO BE OUT? COULD YOU TELL US THAT, OR ARE WE TO GUESS??? THANKS

Well fancypants according to my friend he wanted to release this story last week, but his editor wants it to have more shock value behind it. So the editor,stupid bastard, is going to release the story in the beginning of October. So now you don't have to guess.

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08-13-2003, 04:07 PM	#22
rifleman Guest Posts: n/a/0 Threads: Friends Network	Takin' it hard to the hole!!!!!!!!!! You're wrong! I have inside information that Kobe had consensual "conventional" sex w/ her and then he went "back door" on her. When her anus began tearing she tried to get away, but Kobe got physical with her. She threw her keys and hit him in the head

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08-15-2003, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rifleman

You're wrong! I have inside information that Kobe had consensual "conventional" sex w/ her and then he went "back door" on her. When her anus began tearing she tried to get away, but Kobe got physical with her. She threw her keys and hit him in the head

Rifleman, I do not know who your source is but they are wrong! There was "no" back door entry into Katelyn. Though I must say if there was maybe Kobe wouldn't be in this situation. Maybe she would be happy instead of trying to committ suicide.

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10-12-2003, 03:40 PM	#24
comeonkatie whore Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: atlanta Posts: 18/0.01 Threads: 0 Friends Network	Ira-what qualilfications do you posess to determine she is BP? You guys are merely all throwing out speculation as to what happened that night..I personally dont believe her and she wont have a chance going up against this dude..

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10-13-2003, 12:06 AM	#25
irawish super duper pimpster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Miami Posts: 106/0.05 Threads: 0 Friends Network Gold Member	Qualifications The answer to your question is found at my website and book. It is free to read all or part of it.
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10-13-2003, 06:15 AM

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She said they begin kissing somewhat. She then said Kobe asked her if she would like to go skinny dipping with him in the hot tub. She claims she said "no" to Kobe which angered him. She then claims that he grabbed her face and squeezed her cheeks in his hand and started kissing her again. She goes on to say that he then begins fondling her breasts which upset her even more becasue it was like he was a different person.

Your source seems to be right so far. Does that go for your assessment that Kobe is innocent? Let's see what Wednesday brings.

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10-18-2003, 10:33 AM	#27
KenInNJ Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 553/0.30 Threads: 0 Friends Network	Re: Story Katelyn Is Telling Her Friends Kobe Bryant, shown with attorneys Pamela Mackey and Hal Haddon, is charged with sexually assaulting a 19-year-old Colorado woman. What's good for the goose is good for the gander! Neither Kate nor Kobe testified at the Preliminary Hearings. ASSOCIATED PRESS - EAGLE, Colo., Oct. 2 — In a setback for Kobe Bryant, the judge in the rape case Thursday refused to force the basketball star’s accuser to testify at a preliminary hearing and said the proceedings will probably be kept open to the public.

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11-01-2003, 10:46 AM

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Re: Story Katelyn Is Telling Her Friends

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Could it be this hearsay story? The fact pattern most favorable to Kate. Their version of Kate's events is published inOctober's Newsweek Magazine from MSNBC:<---Click Here

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A friend of the accuser tells a different story. This friend, who requests anonymity, told NEWSWEEK she had spoken with the accuser and the accuser’s ex-boyfriend, who appeared Saturday on CBS’s “48 Hours.” According to the friend, [the accuser] was “attacked as soon as she [the accuser] walked through the door.” There was “aggressive groping with no warning,” the friend says, “followed by sex.”
How these competing versions compare with what prosecutors and defense lawyers will present in court remains to be seen. Hurlbert, citing the judge’s gag order, declined to comment; Bryant’s team did the same.
Now, left to ponder how this wunderkind came to be accused of a crime that could land him in prison for life

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12-20-2003, 12:52 PM

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Myths Kate's Friends Spreading Inaccuracies About T-Shirt

There are many Kate friends out there spreading myths without knowing the true facts of the case, based on hearsay . That's why the discussions here are more credible and not based on street rumors. Here is a good example of bad logic. Read testimony of Detective Winters based on Eagle DA's Direct on Lines #7 thru #11 <--- Just click Here

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December 12th 2003 -11:49:23 AM -Name: pattyocma

And Kobe Bryant walks around in dirty (and bloody!) outerwear! How do you think the forensic lab of the State of Colorado nailed Bryant for sexual assault on the 19 year-old girl?

The cops caught up with Bryant 2 days after the assault - and he was still wearing the same old (bloody!) T-shirt!

The answer: How? By Kobe telling the truth and cooperating. He was still in travel status, came back from Hospital surgery the day after. Provided his soil clothes to them donut cops from his dirty laundry bag. But he wasn't wearing that day-old T-shirt with Kates's blood anymore. Colorado's CBI are a bunch of nitwits - not forensic sleuths. They want to destroy evidence favorable to Kobe. They don't want to allow Kobe's forensic experts in observing their testing procedures.

The correct facts are: Kate by choice wore days old dirty underwear (going to hospital with another man's sperm, semen and pubic hair,) not Kobe with days old outerwear. Kate was caught with another lie. Those local yokel cops and CBI didn't follow own forensic manual procedures. <--- Just Click Here

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E. MALE VICTIM (COLORADO BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Manual
page 8 of 13, revision 2002)

1. CLOTHING – Unfold drape and lay one on top of the other. Have victim disrobe on top of these. Fold the top drape – ends to middle. Seal, label and initial. Discard the bottom drape. All clothing should be placed into separate paper bags. Seal, label and initial.

2. TRACE EVIDENCE (If needed) – Place any extraneous hair, fibers, plant material, soil glass, paint, etc. when found on the victim in bindle provided. Fold bindle to contain hairs; place bindle in envelope. Seal, then initial across seal. Collect and package each area of collection separately. Note on front of envelope where the item is collected from.

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12-20-2003, 04:49 PM

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A Tale of Two T-Shirts

Craig Silverman was a former Denver prosecutor who writes about A Tale Of Two Shirts. One with Kate's DNA and the other with incriminating bias evidence on the prosecution. Kinda good for appeal, not for the upcoming event in trial court. Shows the motives for prosecutorial misconduct. Read What Denverpost.com Reported < --- Just Click Here

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Eagle County law enforcement has possession of a white Nike T-shirt worn by Kobe Bryant on the night of June 30 containing a slight blood smear on its inside front bottom. This stain has been identified as coming from the bloody and injured posterior forchette of Bryant's 19-year-old alleged rape victim. The Eagle County district attorney wants to use that bloody white T-shirt to convict Bryant. It may be People's Exhibit One.

A different Bryant T-shirt has now become an official issue in the case. These "joke" T-shirts have an image of a hanging man on the front in the style of the child's game "Hangman." One model of the T-shirt says on the back "I am not a rapist. I'm just a cheater." Another version is a take off on the credit card commercial containing the following: "First class plane ticket, $600; hotel room, $5000; Surgery, $25,000; Not bringing your wife to Colorado with you, PRICELESS. K_B_ BRY-NT." These T-shirts were produced by hangmantees.com and according to published reports based on e-mails emanating from the Sheriff's Office, an Eagle County law enforcer ordered 78 of them, ranging in size from medium to triple extra large. Are there even 78 deputies in the Eagle County Sheriff's Department? Could one of those triple extra larges be for Detective Doug Winters?

Who thought it was wise or funny to have an image of a lynching in a case involving the alleged rape of a white woman by a black man? In fact, the "cheater" version says exactly what Kobe Bryant has told us, "I committed the sin of adultery but I am innocent of rape." Does that mean that the Eagle County sheriff's deputies endorse that theory?

Team Kobe wants to know the answer to these questions and in a motion just filed, they are asking Judge Ruckreigle to help them find out. Simultaneously, the defense team has filed another motion asking Judge Ruckreigle for a chance to inspect Kobe Bryant's bloody T-shirt and any and all of the other clothing collected from the accuser and the accused at the hospital. More than that, Team Kobe wants these items of clothing transported to a defense expert in California for some laboratory examination. Here's what I think will happen. Like most leak investigations, no answers will probably ever be found. As for the clothing inspection, Judge Ruckreigle will surely allow the defense expert to have a good look. The only question is whether he will risk sending the stuff to California. They have fires out there. Floods and earthquakes too.

Most of this is sideshow stuff. Team Kobe would like to shift the embarrassing Eagle County 78 T-shirt story to center stage . With their motion, Team Kobe is blowing the equivalent of 78 trombones to get the public to notice this further evidence of Eagle County ineptitude. Even with all the noise, this story has a limited shelf life. It is sort of like the lame jokes of the Santa Barbara DA at his Michael Jackson press conference. Humor is all about timing. The timing of these weak jokes was way wrong.

The other motion may lead to some important stuff. Was there a lot or a little blood on Kobe's Nike T-shirt? Evidence at the preliminary hearing suggested very little which could minimize the impact of any injury the woman suffered during the admitted sexual intercourse. The most interesting question is whether examination by a Team Kobe expert can yield further clues regarding who deposited the unidentified non-Kobe Bryant semen stain in the accuser's yellow knit underwear -- and when? That could be center stage stuff.

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